Every single time (8 times) I've done ayahuasca or pharmahuasca using harmalas, I have had the exact same experience of infinite love and the most insane euphoria and staring into infinity for hours after the trip.

The one time I didn't get the love or euphoria was when I used moclobemide. Coincidence? Maybe. But I'm not the only one who has found moclobemide to take a lot out of the experience.

All I can say is probably dose higher.

The devil's in there somewhere.

Everything is.

I mean everything.

Wow, I am still coming up against disbelief. Is it really so hard to believe that not everyone can get to hyperspace just by smoking DMT?

Dosing higher would NOT be a good idea. I smoked up to 200mg of white spice at once (that white stuff really burns up fast). It was a crazy painful OD--I mean psychologically painful. I wasn't teleported out of my body to hyperspace. I was still in my body, though I wasn't completely sure I was anywhere in particular. But it was definitely not hyperspace. Luckily only lasted 5 mins. But after that, even smoking 20mg was an OD for a couple DAYS.

I have also smoked about the same quantity over a period of 5 minutes, which led to my mind becoming jelly and such. At that point there was no way to remember even that I was doing an experiment or that I was supposed to smoke more.

I recommend you read posts with a more friendly tone.

You talk of your experience, we talk of ours.

That's all

What? You (and others) are telling me to dose higher--I am the one saying we all have different make-ups and react differently to this stuff.

I just find that with high dose sessions I am more vulnerable to difficult experiences.

So then I shouldn't dose higher? You said I should a minute ago...

I'm saying difficult experiences.

Not bad ones.

I prefer to have difficult experiences. I get more from them.

Ah, Ok. Well, I don't see how my experiences could get much more difficult... but thanks anyway.

I was just comparing my own experiences with this statement.

With these combinations I've probably ventured into these realms over 100 times. Sometimes it's euphoric, sometimes it's quite numb and sometimes I bang my head on the ground wishing I didn't know what I just discovered.

This is the nature of truth.

The ultimate benefit from this activity is overcoming what brings negative emotions and processing the information in a way that benefits my mind in the real world.

Euphoria just makes me happy with what I have.

Dysphoria makes me work to be rid of it.

Maybe you are emotionally sound and this is why you frequently feel such euphoria. I was/maybe am not. Looking at the world around me, I don't know how I could not come face to face with such disturbance.

Bottom line is... I'm glad you like your changa

Well I must be very different, because I find changa to be a little lacking spiritually compared to DMT and Aya.

Changa is a GREAT trip and I love it! But when I vaporize pure DMT I make love to the universe and I feel a deep spiritual healing that I don't seem to get from changa. Only my Aya experience tops that, probably do to it lasting almost 5 hours but it was still very much a DMT experience.

That is so interesting, Mysmelf. I would really like to do a survey of the population of all people who have tried DMT vs changa/aya and see what percent find DMT as spiritually meaningful. But I'm afraid that it would be skewed if I just put it up on this site, since this is the dmt-nexus, not ayahuasca.com or "dmt-and-ayahuasca.com". Funny how people self-segregate. If you go over to ayahuasca.com and talk about DMT at all, they might even ban you. I got warned for mentioning it.

1:1
10x Caapi : spice

Anything else is just fluff!

20X caapi with 1:1:.2

Herb: DMT:Bufo!

add belladonna to taste.

My changa's bigger than yours

LOL WTF, ignorance is bliss. 'Ayahuasca contains DMT', reply: 'La, la, la, not listening, say that again and we'll ban you.'

the weird changa mix:

Take: 50mg 5MeO-DMT, 500 mg N,N-DMT, 5mg Salvinorin A dissolve them in ethanol, mix, add to mullein for absorbtion and add 500mg harmalas FB to this mix.
A tiny pinch of this should show you how fluff is real ! heheh enjoy the ride and safe journeys.

I don't know if it would really be that skewed. A lot of people here seem to perfer changa or ayahuasca over DMT. It would be interesting to see a poll, though I wouldn't put changa and ayahuasca together. Ayahuasca was a peak spiritual experience for me where as changa has not been.. yet

Sometimes, the substance might not be in cause but also the mindframe of the user.
Or rather say it's most of the time an interaction between the "medecine" used and the psychic interface of the user.

This is ridiculous - just glance through the fora/sub-fora and you will see how absurd of a statement this is. The Nexus has many people who take ayahuasca (and other non-vaped-DMT substances) frequently and find them spiritually meaningful (and there are even discussions on it! ). Funny how people get hung up on titles.

EDIT: If you honestly believe things are truly that different, you could survey multiple sites.

Have you really tried this mix ? It must be insane !