I've got 30g of mixed p.torch and peruvianus powder that's been rehydrated and gently cooked with the juice of 2 lemons and mineral water, and 5 crushed HBWR seeds that have been sitting in cold peppermint tea in the fridge. I'm planning to take this in 2 days time, when i'll reheat the cactus b4 chugging, and filter out the seed bits before consuming the HBWR MINT EXTRACT.

- The aim being a kind of legal, natural " candy flip " with the cactus doing the "e" bit, and HBWR doing the "lsd" bit.

- The peppermint tea's supposed to make the HBWR more visual, and less nauseaus. I've already scraped the "outer" bit off them!

- Has anyone tried this B4?.,..and in what order would you take the medicine??- Any tips appreciated.

this wont register as an identifiable experience for this cat

things that are uncertain
1. potency of said pedro powder, i imagine its quite weak comparable to most achuma
2. strain/potency and time it sat in the fridge

things this puma would do differently would be

1. dont crush hbwr until right before you intend on eating them *yes eat them, theyre already strong enough*
2. dont rehydrate powder as a tea you end up with snot that refuses to strain by any simple/ moderately invested effort

take your powder and rehydrate it just enough to get it to clump up, roll into balls, flush down your throat with a bubbly beverage (not beer, rather seltzer water and grapefruit juice combo works wonders)
take your seeds, powder and swallow, flushing with more beverage

avoid drinking more than 4oz of the beverage as a chaser
fast for minimum 12 hours, 18 starts to get you to where you should be, 24 is ideal

take this with the sunset (9?) and dont eat until sunrise (6?)
dont drink any calories during fasting and the experience

spend the time alone in bed or in the woods camping
take a shower or swim during the experience when its safe to do so (the water polarizes your body clearing entangled outside energies)

your cacti should be about a grams worth of mesc containing alks
your hbwr should be about 10 strong seeds

yea, do that and you should be good

Thanks for the good advice, Ipuma.

-I tried the 30g cactus powder a couple of weeks ago. Basically i reheated the powder in some mineral water with the juice of 3 lemons. I then stored it untill i was gonna use it a few days later, warmed it up with a little more lemon juice, and chugged it home, without filtering anything. There was no nausea at all.

-It kicked in about 2.5 hours later. I felt quite restless when it did, also disorientated and dizzy. This eventually settled down . I got out and went for a walk, but still wasn't comfortable at all with a dizzy, almost "fever like" headfeel. There was no way that i was gonna be drinking that HBWR infusion that i made, feeling like this.

-Back indoors there were some mild psychadelic effects of mild patternings in the carpet, and wall patterns amplified. Colours were a LOT brighter, especially the blues on my laptop that were glowing!!

-The real treat however was when i went to bed and "tried" to sleep (don't laugh!!). I saw some amazing visuals just like mushrooms that i tried in LAOS a few years back whilst travelling.Except these were fast moving, much more colourful, and there were some silver 3d like ones, that reminded me of Colombian artefacts i saw on my travels. Now i know what inspired them to make these objects!! Lot's of funny ren and stimpy, and spongebob cartoon characters too !!

-My mind simply was far too stimulated to sleep, yet i was tired and was "forced" to experience these cool visuals. I was also given a stern reminder of some missed opportunities with beautiful women, that i had long forgotten about. Very true reminders of just how important it is to "go for it", or lose out to others,etc...The mescalito was like a stern grandmother telling me that i had it all going for me in this world, but that like everyone else, i still had to do my bit. This went on and on, and on, YES, i got the message!!

- So i didn't sleep, and felt awful the next day!!

> HOWEVER, the visuals did seem to persist the next few evenings when trying to sleep, and i did get some wierd psychadelic dreams too. I believe that the cactus is a powerful teacher whose strength is in his ability to teach a lesson, that isn't quickly forgotten. The effects certainly persist for a few days after...

>>> Now that i've sampled the spirit of "mescalito" i feel that next time i can go a lot higher. i believe that 70-80 grammes of dried San Pedro -100g is more like the correct dose. 30G was just a tester. However mine is mixed with P.Torch, so i'll just be using the last 45 grammes left before the "next time"- if there is one!!

>>> I also believe that once one starts cactus, that one should " ride the cactus experience" fully for as long as one can to properly get into it's groove. The odd cactus trip here and there not really enough IMO.

- tHE HBWR is still there, waiting to be drunk. I suppose it's weak as hell now!!

-Cheers,Chris.

100 g of anything is wayyy too much plant material, get stronger stuff brah! at the peyote way church they give 20g dried as tea, so at most 60 g of achuma skins dried should be the most youd need, unless their heroic dose dosent cut it for you. if you such weak powder, id bassify and hydralize, pulling with dlimo and salting with dillute hcl

you should be nauseous if its strong, mesc has that tendency without the bulk of plant matter

additionally the hbwr hits 2-3 hours in aswell, take em together for an orgasmic synergy


hbwr are tryptamines and i feel they illuminate the force of the cactus experience, much like dmt to maoi in ayahuasca




push yourself!~raise the bar for our species~!
my "hangovers" are a feeling of utter benevolence, once i pretty much embodied "dug" from the movie "up" and then the next night you sleep quite well!

peace and light brother~! <3

Ok, Ipuma, i've taken your good points on board.

-I read that about say 70g of San Pedro powdered should hit the spot nicely. One day i'll do it, and report back. As for extracting with HCL,ect, I dunno if that's my scene. If i can chug it down, then all is well, and i prefer the simple way. Some people say that extracts are not as good as the real thing.

- I could settle for P.Torch at say 40g instead, as it's more potent. We'll see!!

-cHEERS, cHRIS.

still 40 g is just wayyy too much plant matter, especially if you arent going to be blown out of the water for 18 hours

i dont advise hcl salting unless you have sooo much plant matter its just not worth gulping and suffering over

ive had powder just as inert and found myself eating it anyway, but that was before i knew it was easy and safe to get the goods out, my first attempt was a triple soak and evaporate with everclear, it rendered a 2x tar that hit quicker, atleast youll go from 40 to 20... still not that great, but twice as good :: peace and light,
additionally i gave some to my girlfriend at the time who hadnt used any psychedelics and she rolled on the floor orgasming for minutes when it hit her saying things like "this is pure ecstasy" "oh my god" it was definitely a good night

Good point there, Ipuma!

- Trouble is, we don't have everclear where i live. And i'm one of those people who can pinch his nose and drink the snot of the gods. I can even drink it without pinching my nose!!

- I guess i'm worthy after all!!

bacardi 151, even 80 proof tequila

if those are unavailable because lets say you live in a mormon ruled area, you can go ahead and ferment some juice and make 15% wine out of it, freeze it to remove water content, consequently increasing the alcoholic level, then "dry" it with anhydrous magnesium sulphate to eventually end up with pure ethanol (albeit a large quantity would be necessary to achieve a worthwhile amount of this alternately distilled alcohol, but still the magic is available)

any animal can eat something, only technologically capable species can perform complex chemistry... thats my view on the difference between mushrooms and ayahuasca atleast, and it sort of pertains to other equations as well. you may find the technology available is a precursor to delving further into the experience that you already have available if you solve the relevant equation of increasing potency... a bit more than 2 cents :::3

Thanks for the tip, Ipuma.

-It's nice to be able to have a simple way to make things better, and good to have these options should one need them. At the moment i'm cool, and there's no rush to do anything at the moment. But i'll bear in mind your good tips.

-Thanks, Chris.

Oh great and wise Ipuma Ayar..... What the heck are you on about?

offering my thoughts on this free forum to someone who posed a relevant question because i particularly enjoy the cacti section of this site.

no offense meant, perhaps my opinions are a bit sharp?

i guess the point, if there was one (aside from general communication) of what you quoted was to suggest that one fulfill their potential to experience their potential, atleast to have tried such a venue to know that particular path and or to proceed with it or attempt (as all safe venues should) an exploration of another approach... as through diversity we achieve a greater perspective...

as always when it comes to cacti, i am strongly sided with strictly organic processes, however given particular situations where a substrate is SOOO impotent it may be wise to use slightly less organic approaches to achieve the perhaps necessary effects one was searching for. however there is no need for xylene, or ipa. at worst d-limo, dry acetone, and super dilute hcl/acetic acid....

additionally, i dont feel as though you are responding to this thread out of consideration for above mentioned christian, other nexians, or for anyone in particulars better interest.

do i seem an apt target upon which you chose to unleash a bit of your own omnipotent rhetoric?


peace bra~<3 its just the internet...

Hi Christian,

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/d...aspx?g=posts&t=21467

Here is a link to my first experience with 100g san Pedro dried. Hope this is of interest.

Thanks for that trip report, Entheogen.

- I think you summed it up perfectly with the "don't waste time in your life, and live it to the full", line.

> Having said that, i think that one or two experiences are never enough to truly appreciate the full potential of mescalito. I know that such ceremonies are partaken in holy places, or places of great natural beauty, and that stuck indoors, or in a city is perhaps not the best setting for such an experience.

> Some people say that it's a nice calm teacher, but others are reporting saying that it makes them feel dizzy and disorientated in an uncomfortable way. And is not such a nice experience. I wonder if this is due to the cactus used...

-Once again, thanks for the detailed, and interesting trip report, entheogen.

I think I get what your on about now, however I think Im enjoying more and more your approach, at least to english that is to say the particular grammatical path you chose to experience and the precurser to our conversation to achieve results forthcoming with I that is my interpretation thus far... even if somewhat snarky in nature, has evolved now, undergone a reductive animation into more subtle and open aspects of your literary path.

apologies and a humble exit... shine on Ipuma

Back to the OP however... Christian I think you can enjoy mescaline anywhere. You can have a whale of a time sittting behind a computer trying to comprehend the absurdity of it all..... Or you can get out into nature and take it all in.... One of my most memorable moments with mescaline was with a gram of pure hcl that a friend and I split.... I had booked tickets to the ballet as a surprise. To a sold out show with over 2000 people in attendance. The whole experience was incredibly deep, moving wierd and very commical. On one hand you had this beautiful art that I had never ever appreciated or experienced untill now, and on the other you had these wealthy plastic people who sat in the crowd trying very hard to comprehend it all but never really undertsanding, using thier money to try and gain a sense of artistic enlightenment...or perhaps just gain rank in a social structure, indeed half the people there looked like they would rather be elsewhere, with one glance you ccould tell... The contrast of art, beauty, greed and ego was very striking.

The most memorable thing about that whole experience was the empathy felt. We both agreed that we could feel every single emotion the dancer was portraying, every note and every step worked together in perfect harmony. We felt the dancers feelings, very deeply and profoundly. I think that above all else is Mescalines true gift.

Thanks for your reply antichode.

-I've got nothing but respect for our spikey friendly cactus friend called mescalito. He is someone that likes you to get to know him seriously. He doesn't take to casual passers by that well in my opinion. But then again i guess it all depends a lot on numerous factors. Anything "cactuslike" taken with friends is gonna be a lot more fun than being alone by oneself i imagine.

- I'm glad you enjoyed the positive vibe that mescalito can provide. I also know people who had nice experiences too. My friend Mr. swimmer said he learn't a lot of good lessons from mister mescalito, and is doing his best to put these lessons into action!!

That sounds incredible! Mescaline and ballet... whoda thunked it?!

..Maybe mescalito is trying to tell us " that the world is full of spikes/ err pricks!!- but behind the facade and the bitterness, therin lies some clarity and empathy...and a solid woody core!!"

I think any artform is very deeply felt and appreciated with mescaline, well...most psychedelics really... But the neat thing about Mescaline is that you can go out into public spaces and enjoy the art without feeling like an alien. Even on relatively high doses, its the outer world and its inhabitants that are strange. Theres also a calrity of thought that enables you to ponder and think on a subject, share your thoughts with others and see their opinions as part of the whole.




Yeah I guess it could be For me personally, I think Mescaline's lessons are often experienced in the outer world. I see myself in others, the things that I like/dislike about my behavior and the world I see right in front of me 'out there'. In that way your ego is somewhat shielded, you dont undergo the radical and sometimes torturous shattering that tryptamines suddenly produce. Its a gradual dissolution, and for my personality thats a far more agreeable experience, one which Im much more likely to welcome with open arms. And whats more, this ability to see your own traits in others seems to last a good deal longer than the experience itself. I get weeks of peaceful contemplation.

i found 700 mg of clean hcl to truly deepen the new alice in wonderland in ways i couldnt have imagined before


<3 antichode! peace on brotha!