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#1181 Posted : 6/10/2011 9:03:47 PM

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Bark and toulene? You removed the fat from the bark with your solvent. Therefore I have to say it's probably fat. Looks buttery enough to me.
 

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#1182 Posted : 6/10/2011 9:38:21 PM
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great thanks for the input. That would make sense. this is part of a lot of playing. the goal is not dmt extraction, right now just seeing what solvent pulls what as is.

One Q though if its fats/oils...would they normal dry? from 450ml to bone dry took about 6 hours under a fan (room temp is about 35C). Would the fats dry up so easily?

couple pics of the dried product
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#1183 Posted : 6/12/2011 5:49:03 PM
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Hello Everyone!
First post on these forums, boy am I glad I found this place Very happy
To jump right into things, last week I attempted my first SB extraction on powdered mhrb. I basically used Lazyman's tek, but instead of pure vm&p Naptha (which they didn't carry at Ace, the dude who worked there said it was banned in Socal) I got http://www.wmbarr.com/Pr...ing%20Thinner%20MSDS.pdf .
Followed the tek, finished the "naptha" pulls then evaporated 50%, placed it into a mason jar and let it freeze for for about 30 hours. I then poured the solution through a coffee filter, total yield .0 grams Sad
What went wrong?? Was there something in my solvent that screwed up my extraction? I had to leave town after this little experiment so my soaked mhrb has just been sitting in jars, is it ruined? Someone please help
 
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#1184 Posted : 6/13/2011 7:49:44 AM
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My friend wanted to thank you for your help endlessness. He added the lye and it worked great.
 
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#1185 Posted : 6/14/2011 4:10:22 AM

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headshot wrote:
Hello Everyone!
First post on these forums, boy am I glad I found this place Very happy
To jump right into things, last week I attempted my first SB extraction on powdered mhrb. I basically used Lazyman's tek, but instead of pure vm&p Naptha (which they didn't carry at Ace, the dude who worked there said it was banned in Socal) I got http://www.wmbarr.com/Pr...ing%20Thinner%20MSDS.pdf .
Followed the tek, finished the "naptha" pulls then evaporated 50%, placed it into a mason jar and let it freeze for for about 30 hours. I then poured the solution through a coffee filter, total yield .0 grams Sad
What went wrong?? Was there something in my solvent that screwed up my extraction? I had to leave town after this little experiment so my soaked mhrb has just been sitting in jars, is it ruined? Someone please help


How cold is the freezer? It might not have been cold enough. If the crystals form, and you take the jar out and leave it for too long, letting it heat up, the crystals will re-disolve, it might've been that.
 
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#1186 Posted : 6/14/2011 8:01:59 AM

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headshot wrote:
Hello Everyone!
First post on these forums, boy am I glad I found this place Very happy
To jump right into things, last week I attempted my first SB extraction on powdered mhrb. I basically used Lazyman's tek, but instead of pure vm&p Naptha (which they didn't carry at Ace, the dude who worked there said it was banned in Socal) I got http://www.wmbarr.com/Pr...ing%20Thinner%20MSDS.pdf .
Followed the tek, finished the "naptha" pulls then evaporated 50%, placed it into a mason jar and let it freeze for for about 30 hours. I then poured the solution through a coffee filter, total yield .0 grams Sad
What went wrong?? Was there something in my solvent that screwed up my extraction? I had to leave town after this little experiment so my soaked mhrb has just been sitting in jars, is it ruined? Someone please help


where is the mimosa from, are you sure its good? How much mimosa, how many pulls did you do and how big where the pulls? Was there anything in the solvent, crystals or cloudy, when you took it out of the freezer, or nothing at all?

Check the FAQ questions 4.16 and 4.17

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#1187 Posted : 6/16/2011 4:33:25 PM
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Hi, my first post here.
I've got little question about LSA->LSH. On wiki there's info that, LSH is mostly obtained from hydrolize of LSA.
So is it possible to make such thing with somthing as fragile as LSA:

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#1188 Posted : 6/20/2011 5:03:58 AM
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headshot wrote:
Hello Everyone!
First post on these forums, boy am I glad I found this place Very happy
To jump right into things, last week I attempted my first SB extraction on powdered mhrb. I basically used Lazyman's tek, but instead of pure vm&p Naptha (which they didn't carry at Ace, the dude who worked there said it was banned in Socal) I got http://www.wmbarr.com/Pr...ing%20Thinner%20MSDS.pdf .
Followed the tek, finished the "naptha" pulls then evaporated 50%, placed it into a mason jar and let it freeze for for about 30 hours. I then poured the solution through a coffee filter, total yield .0 grams Sad
What went wrong?? Was there something in my solvent that screwed up my extraction? I had to leave town after this little experiment so my soaked mhrb has just been sitting in jars, is it ruined? Someone please help


From the info provided, my best guess would be either your bark is shit or your solvent is not good. I looked at the msds and it looks like theres all kinds of stuff in you solvent. I would try and find a better solvent, if you cant find (or its not legal/ w/e) naphtha, look for DCM or heptane (bestine rubber cement remover) for a NPS. Try evaporating all your pulled solvent to see if there actually is any dmt in it.
 
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#1189 Posted : 6/21/2011 3:07:18 AM
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This may sound foolish but...

During Noman's tek do I close the pint jars with naptha when I place them in the freezer or do I keep them open?
 
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#1190 Posted : 6/21/2011 7:02:14 AM

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definitely close
 
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#1191 Posted : 6/21/2011 8:52:48 AM

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wagal5689258 wrote:
I would try and find a better solvent, if you cant find (or its not legal/ w/e) naphtha, look for DCM or heptane (bestine rubber cement remover) for a NPS.


Have you had any personal experience with DCM ? The majority of members who have used it reported very small yield, compared to other solvents like naptha or limonene.


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#1192 Posted : 6/22/2011 12:05:06 AM

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Is IPA ok for recrystalising spice? If so what is the best method? I can't seem to find anything online and that is all is available atm...
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#1193 Posted : 6/25/2011 7:17:53 PM
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I've finished my first extraction using Q21Q21's tek. The DMT in the baking pan is all scraped up but is fairly sticky. It keeps getting stuck to my razor and is fairly hard to get in one place. Is this normal?

Anyway, here is the extraction from the second pull. Can someone tell me about how much this may be?

 
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#1194 Posted : 7/22/2011 5:00:57 AM

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#1195 Posted : 7/25/2011 4:59:27 PM
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Looks good, but I would do a few things differently:

- Keep the naphta pulls seperate. This way, you can see how much DMT you pulled. If the last pull yields only a small percentage of the first one, you might not find it worth the effort to do another one.
- Also I would first reduce the volume of your naphta pulls before freeze precip. If you don't you may only get a few crystals at first.
- From experience I definitely recommend against the use of coffee filters. Consider this: your spice is insoluble in naphta at freezer temp., but soluble at room temperature. So if you dont have a buchner funnel and/or big crystals you probably end up dissolving your dmt in the last few drops of naphta left behind on the crystals and lose them in the filter (although you can of course retrieve them afterwards...).

Good luck!
 
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#1196 Posted : 7/27/2011 5:51:26 AM
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Something SWIM's a bit confused about....say SWIM wanted to do a sodium carb wash on some spice recovered from Q21q21's tek to remove residual lime. Say SWIM wanted to do the wash while the spice was still in the solvent directly after being pulled. How does one perform this? How does one know how much sodium carb/water to add to the solvent? And how does one recover the solvent after adding sodium carb/water?

Thanks!
 
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#1197 Posted : 7/27/2011 11:01:41 AM

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#1198 Posted : 7/27/2011 3:32:58 PM
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Evap/Precipitation query.

Not so urgent this time so I am posting in the 'official extractions help thread' (where many dont look).

Earlier this morning, I jarred my naphtha (Bartoline White Spirit) solution and put it straight in the freezer. When I read the tek again however, I noticed that I was meant to evap half of the naptha away frist before putting it in freezer.

It has been in freezer already 4-5 hours, but it is now sitting out in utility room with a fan blowing over it (quite a few white crystals have begun to show themselves).

My question is, am I being an idiot hauling the already very cold jars from out of the freezer in order to evap the white spirit away? Or if not, is it a good idea to evap the naphtha in the sunlight? tis a lovely day here u see (I live in country, no neighbours)

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#1199 Posted : 7/28/2011 12:23:56 PM
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No it's fine to still evap after freezing, no problem at all.

As for the sunlight, I can't really tell from experience but most compounds degrade a little when exposed to UV light over time. I've read mixed reports on this but I think it should be fine if it's only a few hundred mL. Watch out for flies though, they seem to love the naphta smell and drown themselves in it.

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#1200 Posted : 7/28/2011 4:45:53 PM

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