OK, HERE GOES-Ingested a 30 cactus powder comprising a mix of San Pedro and Peruvian Torch after gently simmering in mineral water and lemon juice.
- Come up approx 2 hours. I feel dizzy,messed up, not a good feeling at all. If my memory serves me well, i did 20g of P. Torch 2 years ago, and it was nicer. Having said that i am 10g over, and just got over a dodgy stomach- so i guess that doesn't help matters!!

-I was gonna add some HBWR into the mix, but think this may be too much a mindfuk, because i'm finding the cactus hard enough work alone AT JUST 30G!!!.Pretty dizzying and disorientating stuff indeed.

- Anyone have similar experiences??

- Was i just hovering about in Mescalines "annoying threshold spot", and should i have doubled the dose??- After all, it's gonna last for 10-12 hours or so, anyhows??

I took 30 grams of san pedro last week and experienced very little, except I was up all night and felt just a mild body high. Not sure what the deal is because i've heard others have had incredible trips at this dose, but maybe it works better with an extraction and just taking the extracted mescaline?

I have had really some really great trips at 15g of dry torch. I dont think I would even eat 30g of that cacti unless I had a private campsite surrounded by wilderness for 2 days or so to get lost in. Maybe I am just really sensitive I dunno.

Hello Cecil.

-Updating my trip report i made the mistake of consuming a bottle of red wine, which isn't reccomended, but it seemed to help chill me out. I went to bed at 11pm because i was tired. However, sleep was impossible. Upon closing my eyes i saw very fast moving and extremely colourful CEV's. Some quite incredible. I saw cartoon like scenes out of the ren and stimpy show. I also saw,bizarre spongebob like visuals. Also saw zigzags of blue and green, Orange and reds. Had some insights about past issues i had forgotten. The cactus really wanted me to know, like a stern Grandma!!

-Eventually i sort of drifted off, then got up to face today feeling like a Zombie!!

-So that 30g did work, and next time i'll take it later to enjoy the CEV'S- at a higher dose! I'll also make sure that my stomach is empty and won't drink alcohol again.

- The way i see it is that if i wanna trip, might as well trip well, because it's a long trip, and it might as well be a strong one than a weakassed one. I feel i can safely say this now i had a moderate starter dose under my belt so to speak. I'm thinking of about 60 grammes next dose.

- From what i read, Cecil, 30g Pedro is very borderline. But potencies do vary, and i guess now you have a feeling for mescalito, maybe you'll perhaps wanna try a higher dose like me next time. Which i read should be quite nice.

-mY 30G was a pedro/torch mix , so i guess it had a slight advantage over your Pedro only one.

Swim has tried 3 times so far to ingest cacti, but has yet to actually experience what mescaline is like He tried twice with San Pedro, 12in each time. Both times with Pedro he made tea(2 different recipes), & got under threshold experiences, very weak no visual effects whatsoever besides trails & an upset stomach/minor nausea. The third time(most recently)he used a 12in Bridgesii oven dried & made powder, got 29g powder, mixed with water & drank. Absolutely nothing happened at all, though swim didn't have any stomach issues whatsoever or nausea that time. Could the oven drying have ruined it? Swim dried cactus at 170F. Swim really wants to have a real experience in the future but its very frustrating spending money on cacti and getting nothing.