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Trying to improve Acacia information Options
 
nen888
#21 Posted : 7/13/2011 11:58:10 AM
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..hi, there are probably 6 or 7 waiting to be unvieled in SE-Q, an area not so well known as NSW,Vic.,SA

remember extracts from acacias can be highly variable and have more going on in there, so for mainly DMT, with what's currently known,
you'd be best to purchase seed of A. acuminata.

A. floribunda, A. maidenii are native to SE-Qld, about but not hugely common

study the extraction teks carefully, and get to know the plant...Smile

 

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#22 Posted : 7/13/2011 1:59:56 PM
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#23 Posted : 7/13/2011 2:22:28 PM
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..quick message to pass between friend researhers:
"Cheerio to "JG" 92original "maideniiman" from "E" the "obtuse"..thanks for starting the revolution.!"

& just want to remind people that, as pointed out earlier, subsequent Acacias were discovered after the
accidental mis-identification of A. maidenii, turning out to be a different species.
there's an awful lot out there, so keep the info. flowing...Cool
 
nen888
#24 Posted : 7/16/2011 2:51:04 PM
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...welcome,

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at this point i'm deciding not to talk too much about a number of species due to rarity or threat in the wild
 
hebrew
#25 Posted : 7/16/2011 8:12:34 PM
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nen888 wrote:
..keeping the info. flowing,

i can confirm from observing several bio-assays, and reports by another researcher, the succesful tryptamine activity of
Acacia oxycedrus (Vic.,NSW,SA) (2 varieties + x-breeds with longifolia & mucronata)
was hoping to have a HPLC or GCMS before announcing, but there are delays. Good yields, effects good but composition unknown.
There may be a bit of variation, but the sampled plants are 'good'. Good enough that, despite no GCMS, i'm prepared to put
it on the list..

another researcher has vouched for Acacia blakei (SE Qld,NSW,possibly Vic.) (not real common, needs propogation).i don't have details.

i know of one Australian bi-pinnate species (fern-leaf kind) that appears to contain tryptamines, but work is in progress...

(ps A. mucronata photos now a few posts back..)



is this phyllode or bark? age of material estimation? any further info?

thanks for the info
 
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#26 Posted : 7/17/2011 12:06:05 AM

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I've been doing a lot of work lately with Acacia confusa with great results, I found Acacia farnesiana growing in my area i plan on trying an extraction on it soon. Information says it has n,n-dmt, 5-meo-dmt and tetrahydroharmine..
 
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#27 Posted : 7/17/2011 2:08:48 AM
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..look forward to hearing of your results cytokinesis420.

..hi hebrew see oxycedrus post, but i might add that pruning a single large branch would be the most
ecofriendly way of taking material from a tree in the wild. i would expect the various forms of this plant to show
alkaloidal variability like A. obtusifolia & longifolia. pyllodes are, in most species, a good source.
i really feel the difference between root/trunk/stembark has been overemphasized (in most cases)...
 
nen888
#28 Posted : 7/17/2011 7:50:20 AM
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..more info.!

Acacia colei (native to drier regions W.A.,N.T.,western QLD, planted extensively in Africa)
There are now several net reports now of up to 1.8% alkaloids(DMT) in the bark. (Wikipedia, Australian Ethnobotany forum etc)
Earliest reference i know of was Dr Karl Kruszelnicki talking on A.B.C. radio c.2005 (will try to get recording)...

Like A. victoriae this is an edible seed species (wattle seed very high in protein)...
 
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#29 Posted : 7/17/2011 5:02:30 PM

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Is information about amount of alkaloids in stem & bark of acacia confusa at wiki reliable?
I talk to seller and he said, that it's ok to use stem bark


Quote:
>> > No, most Acacia confusa used is stem bark from the main stem. Premium
>> > is
>> > stem bark with the outer surface scraped.


Quote:
>> Sorry, shouldn't it be root bark for ayahuasca preparing?
>> Here https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...cacia_confusa#Root_bark is says than, root bark contains 1.14% DMT, and there is only
>> 0.01% of it in stem bark.



Quote:
> No, that is Mimosa hostilis. Acacia stem bark is very strong. This is
> mostly what is used for extracts or ayahuasca. Root bark harvesting is
> also very damaging to the tree and surrounding environment.
>
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> Take care!
> kada
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#30 Posted : 7/17/2011 8:41:04 PM
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i have a colei a young one growing in the opposite side of the country but i will get a photo for you here, i am pretty sure its colei, it was gifted to me and i was told it is similar to confusa. however i should have written down the name when the plant was gifted, but i am pretty sure its colei
 
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#31 Posted : 7/20/2011 9:25:58 AM
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Thanks mate that defiantly looks like it!
 
nen888
#32 Posted : 7/21/2011 5:56:29 AM
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..yes lessless, stem bark is often fine but it varies. many cases as good as trunk, look for A. confusa extraction threads in the nexus..(different opinions)
Acacia confusa is native to S.E Asia, so somewhere there a culture of knowledge would exist..
harvesting root bark kills acacias, but not mimosas..some aussie acacias tolterate snow so you could grow in Ukrania..Cool

..hey hebrew, here's A. colei..
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