I am having a problem with DMT. I have not been using it very long, maybe a little over a month. My pattern of use was initially very slow, but over the past 2 weeks I have been using it more and more. Still, even in those 2 weeks I would only smoke the spice maybe 2-4 times a night, 2-3 nights a week. Overall, I would say I have smoked less than 40 doses in my life.

I have developed a deep appreciation for this drug. I felt like if I used it one night a week for the rest of my life, that it would be very therapeutic for me. It is not that I feel that my mental health is bad, I do not use or want prescription meds to keep me stable. Still, DMT has allowed me to release the creative potential of my mind and I feel it has already had a positive impact on me. That is why I am so bummed out about this recent development I am having.

I am just tolerant to drugs by nature, and I am extremely experienced with psychedelics in general. However I have never experienced something like what is happening to me with DMT right now. Initially this drug was very visual to me, especially when I closed my eyes and allowed my mind to wander. However I am at the point now where DMT hardly effects me at all. I have tested my spice with other people, used different pipes and smoking methods, and there can be no doubt anymore. I have a serious tolerance to this stuff. I smoked 130 mgs in a standard fashion yesterday and did not get any real visual effects, either with my eyes open or closed. Meanwhile other people are having fairly intense experiences with less than 1/2 that.

So my question is how normal is this? Is it safe to smoke such large doses, and does anyone else experience anything similar to them or someone they know? I mean I could throw a whole bunch in a bowl and maybe something would happen, but I'm not even sure how high I would have to go to get even a mildly visual experience. Right now I am planning on taking two weeks off to see if my tolerance drops so that DMT is enjoyable again, but I do not know what to expect after that. If I knew 150mg doses were more common I would not be as worried to find what sort of dose I need, but I feel lost. I will be very sad if I cannot enjoy DMT again. Right now I feel like I am practically immune to the stuff. I feel a little high when I smoke it, but that is it. There is no therapeutic value in the effect it produces anymore.

taking a time of is a good idea
at the same time make a machine and use that
i went through a spell like yours when i was over doing it
and a breaak did it for me
know i use one day a week and ill go for bout 3 rounds
with 30 min between base lines

130 mgs of vaporized DMT is an overdose for SWIM. Even 30 mg is very strong for SWIM.

You might try 5-HO-DMT instead. SWIM finds 5-HO-DMT far more visual than DMT.

Another thing is, DO YOU SMOKE CIGARETTES? Smoking can interfere with the effects of DMT in some people.

Do you take any other drugs regularly that could be causing tolerance to DMT? Some drugs can cause tolerance to DMT for a few weeks after taking them.

yeah, take a break for a bit.
take some 5HTP (daily) in the meantime, let it cycle through, and try again in about a month.

I don't smoke cigarettes, the only thing I use on a regular basis is pot. I generally do not like doing DMT with other substances. The other night I had went to see Michael Franti and Spearhead, so I was on some MDMA, and I had a small amount of alcohol to drink when I did the 130mg. However earlier in the week I had poor results with 90-100mg, I only did 130mg last night because people told me that if I really thought I had such a high tolerance, than I should just smoke a lot and that would prove me wrong. Except it didn't, even I was surprise that basically nothing happened when I smoked it.

So like I said I'll be taking a break and maybe that will help. Maybe the MDMA and alcohol even further suppressed the effects more than normal (I believe so). I guess my last three sessions have all gone poorly. Only 1 does out of 7 or 8 gave me additional effect other than just being high. So I really do not have a lot of test points right now, and life will go on regardless. But I can't say I'm not disappointed.

I might pick up some 5HTP if you think it will help.

And it's like you are all pretty fond of SWIM here but I feel like it's stupid to start now for me. In this thread.

Pot tends to totally override the effects of DMT, a few weeks back I got stoned then did a big DMT dose about 30 mins later, and nothing happened at all, I only smoke pot very occasionally but I will never combine it with spice due to it will be a big waste.

MDMA most CERTAINLY makes the spice not work...you may get one good experience out of it..but then you can smoke the stuff all night and have nothing happen...dont do it with MDMA...try it with some LSD...that will give you some visuals...it WILL

And DMT has it's own agenda. Probably thinks you're over doing it. It sounds like you were using it like a recreational drug. You talk about smoking it once a week for therapeutic value but you were smoking way more than that.
You don't do DMT, DMT does you and if DMT doesn't want more of you than you need to wait for a while. Don't get greedy. DMT does not like greed.

Yep, I see value in doing it long term but relatively low use. I don't know that I will continue to use it for sure, I am very new to this scene, and it also might be possible that I will not gain any more from it already. However I had just discovered it and maybe I did do it more than I should have. It doesn't last very long and although I kept my use fairly tame, I was definitely interested enough to want to keep exploring the effects. Also, as I have been exposing it to other people, it seemed customary to smoke it with them. I still did not understate my use in the first post, I think 40 is about right.

Just curious to some people who have been using DMT a while, how often do you or SWIY use the spice these days? In the glory days?

SWIM started smoking it every day...different doses..feeling out the effects...and then you start to get some strange ones...elves laughing at you...becoming viruses..and then you start to understand the effects a bit more..and you start to understand how to USE this tool..so then you only go on when you want to get something done...its about 2 times a month now...

but SWIM is way more interested in pharmahuasca...does anybody know what sort of tolerance you can get from doing pharma?

none

it can be done every day and it works.. it can even be done twice a day and it works.. though obviously for you to be doing that much, there's gotta be good reason for it or karma will make you pay your due in hyperspace

^ isnt there a bit of reverse-tolerance as well due to the effect of continually reduced MAO?

I'm probably more inexperienced with DMT than most on this forum. I've only smoked it three times. However, I read DMT the Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman. He did an experiment on the tolerance one can build to DMT. It found that you cannot build a tolerance to DMT, but that fatigue of the lungs from inhaling the smoke could effect it. Again, I'm not the expert, but perhaps as high as dose as you can muster would work. Two of my three experiences were unsatisfactory because I stopped too soon. The good one was because I stuck with it and kept hitting it after I had started feeling the effects.

the caapi or rue maois clear the system in few hours (maybe 6, max 12), so even taking everyday one gets a clean start every single time in pharmacological terms

thats really cool...

I wouldn't use it more than once a month.

Add some THH or other MAOI if it seems weak.

I personally feel like you do not appreciate DMT as much as you think you do.

If you appreciate it, why would you be using it "2-4x a night, 2-3x a week"?

You smoke DMT every other day? And when you do you go into the dmt land 4x a night? What is that..1-1.5 trips a night?

Lay back..

Drugs are drugs.

Psychedelics are psychedelics.

there is too much to explore to only use it once a month

I sometimes take year long breaks from entheogens... Some people only need to ingest them a few times in their life.

wow...the longest SWIM has taken a break from them in the past five years has been about a month...MAYBE