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damn..well, there goes my argument *stands corrected* sorry, clouds. mckenna wasn't a conspiracy theorist, bad comparison on my part  "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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one of my favorite quotes of his ' every theory has a hard swallow, probably because every theory is horse shit' he didn't take himself too seriously at all โ"I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect." J. Krishnamurti ~ The Dissolution of the Order of the Star. 1929http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjAzA753sg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E
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Alex Jones wrote:"But the question is: Why does the Bible say don't do it?" My question is: Where does the Bible say don't do it? In general, I found the rant to be fairly entertaining. Yes, it's sad that people will take him seriously, but people who take Alex Jones seriously about anything are putting themselves at high risk of harboring harmful beliefs. While I don't see it in the sort of sinister light that Jones does, I am a bit curious about his comments on the Bilderberg group using hallucinogens considering that the Shulgins were regular attendees of Bohemian Grove. I wonder if he has any actual evidence to back that claim.
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"considering that the Shulgins were regular attendees of Bohemian Grove." WTF?!..just when you think things can't get any weirder... Long live the unwoke.
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fractal enchantment wrote:"considering that the Shulgins were regular attendees of Bohemian Grove."
WTF?!..just when you think things can't get any weirder... I was just thinking the same thing... I'm going to dig into this one. "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -A.Huxley
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Sasha collaborate with the DEA for a brief period of time? "'Most men will not swฮนm before they are able to.' Is not that witty? Naturally, they won't swฮนm! They are born for the solid earth, not for the water. And naturally they won't think. They are made for life, not for thought. Yes, and he who thinks, what's more, he who makes thought his business, he may go far in it, but he has bartered the solid earth for the water all the same, and one day he will drown."
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the bible talks about something called pharmakia, something about altering your consciousness having to do with witchcraft or sorcery. heres a write up on it for you http://truedsicernment.c...he-greek-word-pharmakia/โ"I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect." J. Krishnamurti ~ The Dissolution of the Order of the Star. 1929http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjAzA753sg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E
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I wish we had more politicians smoking dmt and talking to clock work elves.... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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@benzyme hehehe I agree that he is not comparable to Alex Jones. I agree that he was batshit crazy @everyone else I remember someone here at dmt nexus once reported a hyperspace trip about some Illuminati characters. Its probably on the Lexicon forum if I recall correctly (damn Im drunk right now ahahaha) anyway.... sigh... on a more serious note, I think its VERY PROBABLE that the elite circles have had smoked DMT long before some of the oldest users here. Its not something to be surprised of if you think about it.
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Alex Jones wrote: Demons? Aliens? Don't exist? I don't know! I only cover what I can prove!  I'd like to see his take on the experience itself  Expect nothing, Receive everything.
"Experiment and extrapolation is the only means the organic chemists (humans) currrently have - in contrast to "God" (and possibly R. B. Woodward). "
He alone sees truly who sees the Absolute the same in every creature...seeing the same Absolute everywhere, he does not harm himself or others. - The Bhagavad Gita
"The most beautiful thing we can experience, is the mysterious. The source of all true art and science."
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McKenna was a poet, more than anything else.
To criticize the validity or truth in McKenna's ideas is somewhat akin to criticizing a comedian's satire for being offensive.
In both examples, you're essentially taking a work of art at face value.
I'm a huge fan of McKenna's work. There are few people that can stimulate my imagination, and provoke my wonderment of the world, as much as McKenna.
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Is there anything we can do to impinge on the happiness of Alex Jones' life? "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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TheAppleCore wrote:McKenna was a poet, more than anything else.
To criticize the validity or truth in McKenna's ideas is somewhat akin to criticizing a comedian's satire for being offensive.
In both examples, you're essentially taking a work of art at face value.
I'm a huge fan of McKenna's work. There are few people that can stimulate my imagination, and provoke my wonderment of the world, as much as McKenna. some people think of mckenna as a comedian, pinchbeck too. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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http://www.youtube.com/w...player_detailpage#t=276s4:31 alex jones ftw "lay down, G.I." listen to his rant, then tell me you don't agree with it on some level. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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a1pha wrote:fractal enchantment wrote:"considering that the Shulgins were regular attendees of Bohemian Grove."
WTF?!..just when you think things can't get any weirder... i was just thinking the same thing... I'm going to dig into this one. makes me cringe too, altho the Shulgins have been more or less forthcoming about this issue... Sasha having been invited to play viola in the B. Grove orchestra. i get the sense that they attended the event mainly for its novelty, not out of a desire to collude with the NWO lol... still a bit troubling tho, & one of the more dubious/tasteless chapters in the shulgins' published life, imho...
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blue lunar night wrote:a1pha wrote:fractal enchantment wrote:"considering that the Shulgins were regular attendees of Bohemian Grove."
WTF?!..just when you think things can't get any weirder... i was just thinking the same thing... I'm going to dig into this one. makes me cringe too, altho the Shulgins have been more or less forthcoming about this issue... Sasha having been invited to play viola in the B. Grove orchestra. i get the sense that they attended the event mainly for its novelty, not out of a desire to collude with the NWO lol... still a bit troubling tho, & one of the more dubious/tasteless chapters in the shulgins' published life, imho... I posted this awhile back. Shulgin discusses some of the meetings (not from the Grove, but others). Chemical Warfare: Secrets Almost Forgotten"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -A.Huxley
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I dont think alex jones is completely nuts at all. I think that when he goes off on some of his rants like this DMT one though that he looses credibility and starts to sound crazy..like he walks a fine line. Alot of what he says about the government etc I tend to agree with..but only in general..I dont agree with all of the specifics and I find his approach instills alot more fear than hope. One main thing I agree with is the idea of a larger "agenda" that is not good for most of us..call it "NWO" or whatever you want to call it. Long live the unwoke.
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My goodness. I am hardly believing that the video is even real. I mean wooah Alex jones is strung soooo tight. Why do the elves want the globalists to kill us all? Every once in a while I read something on one of his sites that makes me lose sleep. Now I can just remember this rant and put my mind at ease. Ooooooo All posts written by Madcap should be regarded as fiction.
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I find it hard to listen to anyone who blusters to such a degree that they seem like they are going to explode at any moment! Alex Jones seems like a total nut bag to me.
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