I would just add that if bush could go to war Ron paul could stop war. why would a president not be able to reverse something like that ?

same thing with the war on drugs. Even if it couldn't be instantly abolished it sure as hell could be incrementally worked on.

wars that serve private corporations are abominable. This issue must be addressed.

"I would just add that if bush could go to war Ron paul could stop war. why would a president not be able to reverse something like that ?"

Assasination I guess. I think corperations are the real government, the president has some say but it is not above those of big corperations.

I guess it all depends on how much of what Bush did helped out large corperations compared to how much someone like Ron Paul would help them out. Ron Paul was blackballed from the media, if he was president I wonder how they would try to shut him up?

I was just listening to a terrence talk about this today. he was talking talking about how magic is done, he says that the universe rewards courage, you state your agenda and the universe opens the way. the dark drop into the abyss is revealed to have a feather bed at the bottom. I agree with this idea and I've seen it happen in my own life. If we just say ' well hes just gonna get assassinated if hes elected so why bother ' I think we're giving our potential world changing power away. I agree with you fractal , the corporations seem to have the world by the balls, I would just say that we should go for theirs and see what happens. We might be surprised.

yeah I agree.

Ray, I appreciate your enthusiasm. Many of us here on the Nexus in the US have already looked at Ron Paul, what he has to say, what he has done and who he is and have decided that he is not worth voting for. I hope you can appreciate that point of view. Changing big things is not as easy as it might seem. You need to get lots of other people to side with your POV even if you are the President in order to change anything. The fact is that there are so many politicians and so many mega-corporations who are making money off of the war on drugs and off the US military and their presence in other countries and how the US banking system works and off of Wall Street that each and every one is an enormous battle into itself to change in any meaningful way. Also, most of the people in congress that a President must get on their side in order to change these big bad things are in one way or another making money from these big bad things or from the people behind them. Politicians love to make promises that get the general public excited, promises to change things and to improve things. The reality is that most of the time it is nearly impossible to actually change or improve things in this mega-corporate political world.

Since this was originally a post about the new legislation to legalize Cannabis at the Federal level, lets put our support into that. Since the squeaky wheel gets the grease, I suggest everyone and their friends start applying weekly pressure to their representatives to support this bill and to vote yes on it. The science is on our side - Cannabis is ancient medicine that keeps getting proven to have lots of medicinal benefits for humans. The Cannabis prohibition has already been proven not to work and to cost lots of money to local, state and federal government to attempt to enforce. The added benefit is that if this bill passes it should also allow for the cultivation of industrial Hemp. Sign petitions of support for this bill and flood your representatives offices with emails, letters, calls, anything you can think of to pressure them to support it. Thanks.

This.

Well said, Mitakuye Oyasin.

It seems that there were many people way before Terence that were trying to wake up the general population of the USA. Trouble is that too many of them were too busy working or going to church to listen. People are so busy these days, and that's the problem. It seems like Consumerism is a potent weapon against free thinking indeed...and it won't stop untill there's nothing left to consume- because for most people, that is all there is to do in this life, i'm sad to say....

Snozz you have big problem with your ego you should work on that one first.

Please elaborate...I'm glad to work on myself but vague statements like this really don't help me know where I should be focusing my efforts; as such, I feel they serve little purpose. If however, you were to provide constructive criticism, I'm more than happy to listen. I do not think I'm perfect or all important; far from it, so help me help myself. Don't just tell me you think I suck, tell me why.

And remember, in the words of Bob Marley, "While you're pointing fingers, someone else is judging you"

How? This is not solely a presidential power. Most of this decision making rests with congress. Corporate interests assure that we will be staying in Iraq...we just built the largest military base/embassy on foreign soil anywhere in the world in Iraq. Do you really think we're going to abandon that? We have military troops stacked up in the kandahar valley, getting blown to bits every day (moreso than anywhere else at present, iirc) specifically to open up a trade route from afghanistan to pakistan for Haliburton to move supplies. Why would we abandon these two projects, nevermind the hundreds of similar undertakings that are also going on? We have a vested interest in continuing these wars and plundering these resources.



This power does not lie with the president either, but also with congress. Ray, i respect your right to an opinion, but your posts reflect an absolute lack of knowledge of American civics. Many Americans also lack this understanding, so it's not overly surprising that you are unaware of the mechanisms by which change happens in our country, but you need to understand that the things you are saying simply cannot happen as you present them.

Ray, as to your points about healthcare, are you aware that the USA could change the national deficit into a surplus solely by nationalizing healthcare? This is an economic fact and is easily found with a simple google search. The majority of Amnericans supported a public option for healthcare, as evidenced by numerous polls, but because the politicians are owned by corporate and financial interests (of which the insurance agencies make up a huge percentage) they ignored the will of the people to ensure the sanctity of the oligarchs.

Lastly, I have a final question for you. Do you know who pays Ron Paul's campaign bills? Do you know who supports him? You talk about him as though he is not supported by special interest groups, corporate interests or PACs...I would suggest you look into this because, afaik, there is no one currently serving in the American political system on the national level who does not get money from these people. The reason for this is that it is impossible to fund campaigns and win election without the significant contributions such organizations are able to make. So when you present Paul as a man of the people, devoid of special interest influence, I believe you are in error.

Again, I commend Ron Paul for supporting this bill and hope that we can achieve some real change in this arena. I'm going to be calling m,y representative again today to urge her to support this measure.

The system is not broken, it has been overthrown. The Reconstruction Acts and the nationalization of citizenship is the root of what appears to be a broken system. The 'Acts' are unconstitutional upon their face, Congress does not have the authority to annul states. An unconstitutional act has no statute of limitations, no passage of time can cure them, no subsequent act can cure them, they create no office and no obligation what so ever - as an operation of law it is as if they never existed. With that thought in mind the nationalization of citizenship is a new unconstitutional political body; a new 'office' if you will, every subsequent act from that point forward is a fiction in law - i.e. the Federal Reserve, Social Security, Department of Education, etc...(anything that exceeds the enumerated powers of the trust indenture called the Constitution for the United States of America). I know it maybe difficult, at first, to wrap your head around this jurisprudence, but it is okay, we were never educated in law, not like we should have been.

Well since this is partially about Ron Paul I will throw my two cents in as well.

There are many things he says that I like and things he says I don't like. To be sure this is true of most politicians.

Ray, the other posters are largely right on this issue. The president of the USA is more of a figure head than anything else. Even if Ron Paul was elected you would see that few, if any of his promises were actually delivered upon.
This is because our system is designed to protect against the extremes. In many cases this is good because it keeps the USA from making devastating decisions....we can debate that. However it also keeps us from making fast decisions around things that matter like Global warming....we are one of the only 1st world countries still debating if it is real while the rest of the world has moved on to debating what to do about it.

The USA once had the best system in the world, but like most human endeavors it has been corrupted on almost every level. Corporate interests control just about everything in this country and until we figure out how to solve that problem I don't see many other high level problems actually being solved...pushed aside and kicked down the road..yes, but solved no.

Part of the problem is that we are fed misleading information. Google global warming and you will quickly find plenty of pages that appear to debunk the entire science around it. You will also find plenty of pages claiming it to be real. The only way to have an informed opinion about something like global warming today is to actually dig into the science and this just isn't something most Americans/people will do. I only use global warming because it's an easy example to show the polarization with.

Just like corporate interests determine politics around global warming they also dominate in policies related to the drug war. Conspiracy theories aside for the moment. The DEA has a huge budget and many people earn their living working for them. If the war ended tomorrow those people would be out of jobs...no I don't expect anyone here to cry them a river, but I do think most of us would try to protect our livelihoods if we felt it was under attack. Of course most of us here believe the drug war corruption is far deeper than this....

And lastly I don't even think most politicians are evil. Sarah Palin isn't evil. She's a product of a consumerism society that was kicked of somewhere around the 50s. She is just saying what she believes because she hasn't taken the time to challenge what society has spoon fed her...but I'm quickly digressing.

The younger generations in our countries have been leaning more liberal for decades, yet the policies in our country are still very conservative....the reason is corruption. This is what the American people need to fix first IMHO.

Read some Bouvier's 1851, all government is and has been a corporation - co-operaation, cooperation, community, common interest. Don't listen to all that 'patriot mythology', there are grains of truth and fact in them, however the majority are grossly misleading, and the conclusions that are presented are substantially incorrect. The concept of a juridic person has been around for a very long time, it always falls in to the 'law of trust and uses', even if that is the method by which the de facto government are executing there wicked plans, it is still colorable; it is still de facto; it still falls into fraud; it still rests upon unconstitutional acts. All the stuff people rant about, as being the root of the problem, from 1913, 1933, 1934, 1941, 1948, 1972, etc... is all spun about and full of, like I said "grossly misleading, and substantially incorrect" information. I am not trying to throw anyone under the bus, however substantiate what people are claiming to be true - go to the archives and look for yourself, only about 2 to 3% of the information contained in the various archives (Library of Congress, National Archives, various state archives) is available on the internet, and what is on the internet is primarily there to support the propaganda of revisionist history and jurisprudence.

You can apply these statements to any politician. Can you not? Ron paul is certainly no different here. Personally I'd like to see the federal reserve done away with...but how? And I for sure agree about most Americans having little understanding of how our government works. Hell I'm not sure the politicians fully understand it either!

Yeah good point. I was referring to the period after world war II when consumerism was pushed as being patriotic...but your point is spot on. It's not just Americans though...it's people. We can either be a virus to the planet or cure. Currently most of the world is acting like a virus!

A minor point but corporation comes from the Latin corporare, meaning body...essentially leading to the same point you make, but just wanted to clarify that. (sorry, I'm a pedant, I can't help it :wink

As I see it, the issue is not "juridic persons" but rather the rights extended to juridic persons through Supreme Court decisions, which is largely the source of the problems we face today. As far as the dates you throw out, I don't follow. Are you saying that the unions were wrong or that the union busting was wrong? That American socialist ideology was wrong or that the red-scare was wrong? The way it's worded, as the American socialism and union movements are what are currently excluded from history, I assume that's the omission you are referring to and are against the other sides presented in coprorate controlled history. That is something I very much agree with.

Fior, I feel like you have a lot to add but find myself somewhat saddened by the apparent condensing of your post...care to share more?



Oh, most definitely...but that's my point, or a major part of it. Ron Paul is no different, contrary to what the people who say he is vastly different or our potential savior claim. I too dislike the Fed and am left grappling with the how as well. That's part of why I feel violent revolt will eventually be the only option for true change...too many entrenched structures that can't be otherwise abolished.

Do you believe in God ? Do you believe in other realms ? Do you believe in existence of other dimensions, other worlds existing parallel to our ?

Unfortunatly i agree witn you here. Unfortunatly when America wakes up they are going to find their wealth has vanished.

It's only 3 a.m. and we still have a few good hours of sleep ahead of us.

$14,351,721,904,116.25 and rising at a rate of $3.92 billion a day.

This strikes me as non-sequiturial and really doesn't help me understand why you think I'm being egoic or what personal issues you think I need to address.

Over the past several days, I’ve been hit with a lot of ad hominem attacks/replies to logical arguments I have presented. If you really think I need to work on something, please tell me (as I requested in my last post to you). If this is just rhetorical mudslinging, it has no place on the Nexus and I would kindly ask you to cease and desist.