I followed Q21Q21's tek to the salting stage, then switched over the the FASW method in BLAB.

Here are my notes:
300 grams of powdered mimosa hostilis bark was added to container.
Vinegar was added to a clumpy consistency as described in the tek.
Water was allowed to boil, then taken from the heat source and allowed to sit for 3 minutes before being added to the mixture.
It was stirred periodically over 2 hours.
225 grams of CaOH was added to the mixture. Heat was observed as the mixture was stirred.
Tap water was added to the right assumed consistency as described by the tek.
The mixture was stirred well over 20 minutes.

700 mL of d-limonene was added to the mixture and stirred periodically over the course of an hour.
The limonene was decanted into another jug.
Another 700 mL of limonene was added and stirred periodically over the course of 4 hours.
It was decanted and added to the jug with the previous pull.
Another 700 mL of limonene was added and stirred periodically over the course of 30 hours.
The last pull was put in a separate jug.

260 mL FASW was added to the decanted limonene and shaken for 5 minutes.
The FASW was separated from limonene into a pyrex dish.
This was done a total of 3 times for ~800 mL of dmt fumarate saturated water.
This was allowed evaporate over 3 days at room temperature with a box fan blowing.

I don't know the exact yield because I had to return my faulted mg scale, but here is a pic of the resulting assumed dmt fumarate:



Now a few questions. What would be the best way to bio-assay the fumarate? I would like to get freebase, but I want to make sure it is active before performing the procedure. Could I smoke some b. caapi, then take the fumarate sublingually? I know you can't smoke b. caapi then take it orally, but does that include sublingual?

UPDATE: Apparently the assumed dmt fumarate contained no dmt. I bio-assayed it by taking 150 mg sublingually for 35 minutes. There was zero activity. To be certain, I performed the 10 minute conversion tek. Zero dmt was obtained. When the water was added to the fumarate, it became an orange tint. I have come to the conclusion that the solvent is at fault. I believe I have the wrong kind of d-limonene. I am evaporating a portion of the limonene to see if any dmt is in it.

So quick question. Is it too late to get some xylene and add it to the mush to pull out the dmt or did I ruin it by using the wrong limonene? Assuming that is the problem.

From my understanding sublingual DMT is not incredibly reliable, did you use MAOI? It may be worth trying orally with an MAOI if you want to bioassay.

I must admit I don’t have any personal experience with sublingual administration though.

I smoked a bowl of b caapi 15 minutes prior to sublingual administration.

Like I said though, when attempting a conversion there was no freebase to be had.

I asked this in another post, but I don't believe it is receiving traffic quickly enough. Haha. I'm just not patient enough.

If the limonene is at fault for the failed extraction, is the bark still viable for a xylene pull?

Aaah, sorry, I missed that.

Im not sure if dmt fumarate works sublingually, do others know?

I would guess it worked fine and your problem was the conversion. Try the slow water crystallization or the paste+IPA/acetone pull instead, I remember a few people having issues with the 10 mins conversion tek

You could do another conversion if you didnt do it with all your fumarates yet. You could also try pulling from that water that didnt precipitate with limo again and salting etc.


and please be patient regarding posting. This forum is a community for everybody, if anyone who doesnt get answers immediately in their post makes a new thread, this would be a horrible cluttered forum, so please act as you think everybody should. Thanks

The reason I say it might be the limonene is that when trying to do some more research I noticed that people were saying that the limonene should be clear; mine is orange.

The remaining fumarates were dissolved, and mixed with the sodium carbonate solution. It clouded and sizzled. It is now sitting in the refrigerator.

Say that it doesn't work, will the xylene pull out the dmt still in the mush?

I also apologize the the rash behavior. Just excitement getting the best of me:-)

What crashed out of the fumarate/carbonate concoction was a tan sediment. There was barely enough to test for activity; there was none. I also evaporated a small portion of limonene,and a darker sediment crashed out. It also had no activity, but my bong vaporization method may be off.

My conclusion is that I do not have the correct limonene. Is there away to salvage the extraction?

There are different kinds of d-limonene?

If you know how much fumaric acid you used, and your extract weighs more than the FA, then whatever extract you got is probably dmt, likely nn because it seems to be pulled the easiest.

If you don't trust your product, you can salt your limonene with vinegar, then base that vinegar, along with your extract, add it back in with the mimosa, and add xylene.

Yeah it does:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=127421#post127421
though it's tough for some to nail down an adequate sublingual technique, once you've got it, you've got it.

...and with SWIM's recent disenchantment with vinegar fumarate tinctures would be choice for sublingual purposes.

This is the limonene I used if anyone has experience using it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Oran...415835b55d#ht_3938wt_850

So as stupid as I feel about it, the main problem of the extraction was my lack of trust in the final product. After trying one more time extracting from the limonene this time with vinegar instead of FASW, I pulled 3.2 grams of dmt acetate. Another batch of vinegar is evaporating as we speak, so a pretty decent yield came from all of this.
So thanks to you guys for your help. Turns out I am a little to skeptical of my abilities. :-)