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#301 Posted : 3/30/2011 6:40:55 PM

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Ive never had any problems with using my torch and the GVG, as long as you direct the flame straight down at the ceramic bit, all will be fine. Just make sure that the torch sends out a nice thin flame.

Disclaimer: Do not attempt this - il go so far as to say that im able to take a full hit of vapor and still able to pull the glass/ceramic filter bit off (for a second or less) to clear the pipe of any vapor, with no burning of my fingers. This is due to being able to direct the right size flame directly at the ceramic bit. No way would I even attempt this with a bic/big flame lighter/torch.
 

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#302 Posted : 3/31/2011 5:36:08 AM

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Bro, calm down I wasnt trying to say they are not a good product ( I am modeling my design after theirs). I posted information telling about their strength and heat resistance. ( I can find pics of a cracked disc if you would like )

I meant that if the GVG disc breaks its because its 6mm think and that is why it may not withstand the heat that the ceramic material is made to handle. Thant is all.

I’m not really too excited about this – it’s just that I don’t want an unsubstantiated rumor started. You didn’t make the claim, and my comments weren’t directed toward you. As far as I know, the silicon carbide filter in the GVG (and the other VGs) is not susceptible to cracking due to thermal shock from a torch lighter. I don’t think that the thickness has anything to do with it.

The glass top piece can crack – as I’ve already posted, mine has a small crack.

“fender1212” made an unsubstantiated claim that could lead to needless concern among GVG owners and potential buyers.


I see what you mean. The GVG will withstand just about all the use you can give it. I meant if it was to break it would be because its thinner than the material was intended to be for the gas and molten metal filtering. The molten metal part I find very reassuring that the discs will not break.

Also, I double checked the pick I was thinking about and guess what? It was the glass top part that had cracked in half not the disc so I was incorrect.

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#303 Posted : 3/31/2011 7:51:10 AM

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Does anyone know the exact percentage of DMT which will be wasted using a meth pipe with the flame heating it about 1 inch away? I know the glass vaporgenie is probably the most efficient apparatus, but I think properly heating the meth pipe would lead to sufficient vaporization. How do the two administrations contrast?
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#304 Posted : 4/1/2011 5:27:40 PM
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Perhaps I misread the website, and it is the glass that's in danger of cracking. I supposed that the glass would be the unlikely agent in cracking due to it being boroscillated glass, but perhaps I needed to read more carefully. I just received my GVG, and the directions that came with it state, "DO NOT CONTACT THE FLAME TO THE CERAMIC FILTER". If you also own a GVG, you can pull out the small card that came with it. Upon opening the card, you'll notice on the second page it states under step 3. Inhale slowly while supplying flame to the flame filter. It is important to inhale constantly. Use a flame about 1 inch tall. DO NOT CONTACT THE FLAME TO THE CERAMIC FILTER. (note, these directions are actually in caps on the card itself).

I'm not trying to spread rumors or any nonsense like that, I simply would like to make sure that my GVG maintains it's functionality for years and that I maintain it well. All I was inquiring to was other members experiences with their GVG's. I very much appreciate Endlessness's reply. Thank you for letting me know that you've been using a torch for a year with no damage to your GVG. I'll pick up a nice torch for use :-)
 
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#305 Posted : 4/1/2011 6:05:56 PM

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fender1212 wrote:
Perhaps I misread the website, and it is the glass that's in danger of cracking. I supposed that the glass would be the unlikely agent in cracking due to it being boroscillated glass, but perhaps I needed to read more carefully. I just received my GVG, and the directions that came with it state, "DO NOT CONTACT THE FLAME TO THE CERAMIC FILTER". If you also own a GVG, you can pull out the small card that came with it. Upon opening the card, you'll notice on the second page it states under step 3. Inhale slowly while supplying flame to the flame filter. It is important to inhale constantly. Use a flame about 1 inch tall. DO NOT CONTACT THE FLAME TO THE CERAMIC FILTER. (note, these directions are actually in caps on the card itself).

A conventional lighter will produce soot if the flame is kept too close to the filter. As a result, the filter can become clogged (the VG site and literature describe how to burn off the soot via a torch lighter). So the reason for the recommendation to avoid flame contact is to avoid clogging the filter with soot.

Since a torch lighter produces no soot, this isn’t a concern when using one.
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#306 Posted : 4/6/2011 12:45:31 AM

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Swim has been experimenting with different methods of smoking dmt now for a few months and then decided to order a vapor genie the other night. Though swim could not afford the gvg right now, he hopes to buy one eventually. Swim is excited to try a new method of administration though and will let you guys know his thoughts after he experiments some with it. Swim also wonders if people here think extra screens are an important part of using a vg.
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#307 Posted : 4/6/2011 8:19:50 AM

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z0mbie wrote:
Swim also wonders if people here think extra screens are an important part of using a vg.


A single screen is guaranteed to leak, but a thin disk of metal mesh is, imo, better than a stack of screens.
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#308 Posted : 5/25/2011 2:54:23 PM

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I need one of these now Very happy
 
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#309 Posted : 5/27/2011 12:23:29 AM

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For those in the UK I’d like to relieve you some stress when you’re tracking your delivery online!

In the final stage of delivery the tracking incorrectly stated "Attempted Delivery". What actually happened was the item was at the depot for collection/payment of fees and around a day later a note outlining fees/payment/delivery or collection is received.

You can get more accurate tracking in the post-customs leg of your GVG’s journey by putting your tracking code into the ParcelForce website’s tracking system (remove spaces if any) and it will convert it to a UK tracking code and give you better info.
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#310 Posted : 5/29/2011 5:24:52 AM

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From what I have read using one screen and a copper chore boy screen is sufficient. Using herb isn't necessary but is it more fool proof to do so? Also, just a quick shot of the torch will melt the DMT into the mesh before actually taking your hit, correct? About how long should it be heated to melt it? Just trying to make sure I have an accurate grasp on how to do this properly with less of a chance to screw it up.

This thread is wonderful and has answered almost every question I have had about using the GVG. I have just recently used DMT for the first time and failed a good handful of attempts due to poor equipment and inexperience. I finally got it to work using a little one hitter bat but my fiancée still had problems igniting the herb and burning the DMT. Instead of risking wasting more DMT I am buying a GVG asap.
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#311 Posted : 5/29/2011 2:22:41 PM

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Using herb is not more full proof, though enhanced leaf/changa is definitely the way to go for SWIM.

To clarify, you quickly torch the screen and then drop the DMT onto it. If you do it the other way around, there's still the chance of burning the spice.
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#312 Posted : 5/30/2011 6:01:55 PM

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^^ Thanks for clearing that up for me. ^_^
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#313 Posted : 6/11/2011 7:56:10 AM

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I have vaporized DMT in a normal pipe doing the layer method mint leaves-DMT-Ash with prety good success rate. However there have been those few times where it didn't go as I planed, and because of this I've been thinking about the VG.

I'm acually interested in the handcarved spiral VG mainly because of the natural wood look but also because of a slightly bigger bowl compared to the classic VG. I think the bigger bowl will come in handy with changa and other smoking blends I'll be venturing into in the future.

I really just wanted some insight from someone who has used one before. I read something somewhere about a loose bowl. does anyone know if the bowl is any different(besides its size) from the bowl on the classic. And of course any other info will greatly be welcomed.

sorry if this has been cover I didnt see anything about it, but I didn't readd all 11 pages either

thanks alot!
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#314 Posted : 6/18/2011 3:34:31 PM
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I got a glass one because of the recommendations here. So far, it's great for herb. I plan to try it soon with DMT on a ball of steel wool.. All i have is a lil bic flame though; wish me luck
 
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#315 Posted : 6/18/2011 5:43:01 PM

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wish me luck

Sending good luck vibes your way!

You've got your self one hell of a teleportation device there. Definitely look into a good torch lighter. The two go hand in hand. This is an excellent one ----------> http://www.outdoorgb.com...me_arc_tabletop_lighter/


 
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#316 Posted : 6/18/2011 11:03:35 PM

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Hey nexus!

I read through this whole thread, and bought a GVG today Smile

Im asthmatic, and have not had much luck in the past. I have had a couple sub-breakthrough experiences, but never the full effect. I have tried a double percolating bong with an oiler attached instead of a bowl, I've tried The KeyV2, and briefly tried the machine, which I found to be the worst.

Im hoping the GVG will help me once I get the technique down. In the mean time im very excited to find out. and to unpack my GVG Smile

can any other members who may have had similar difficulties post your thoughts, and results?

thanks nexus, such a great community!
I love reading a forum where the members can communicate with maturity but still express their thoughts.
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EDIT*** so after reading the thread on torch lighters, I gave in and ordered the turboflame arc Razz

Also a quick question, I read a lot of people who used pot scrubbers in their GVG, has anybody had good results using 10 or so screens, and nothing more to hold the dmt? or will my gvg be unusable that way, I want to be able to use it when I unpack it lol Smile im very excited.
 
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#317 Posted : 7/1/2011 1:40:42 AM

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SWIM has also have read through most of the thread and has ordered a GVG. Pretty high price, but something tells SWIM they will never regret it.
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#318 Posted : 7/1/2011 9:18:22 AM

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closet-chemist, DMT will melt through 10 screens. Get a copper scrubber (never tried, people say its very good) or a volcano liquid pad (some people have issues with it but I have it working perfectly). Or another solution is to infuse some herbs/changa and smoke that instead, or add small layer of herbs under the dmt to catch it when it melts

Good luck!

(WispyCat, you wont regret indeed! Get a torch lighter too Smile )
 
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#319 Posted : 7/1/2011 1:19:59 PM

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endlessness wrote:

(WispyCat, you wont regret indeed! Get a torch lighter too Smile )

Yeah, SWIM swore up and down for months after getting her GVG that she didn't need a torch lighter. Even after trying one a few times, she went back to the Bic. Finally she gave in and tried it again, and once you get the technique, it's so much better. Might as well start out there!
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ragabr wrote:
endlessness wrote:

(WispyCat, you wont regret indeed! Get a torch lighter too Smile )

Yeah, SWIM swore up and down for months after getting her GVG that she didn't need a torch lighter. Even after trying one a few times, she went back to the Bic. Finally she gave in and tried it again, and once you get the technique, it's so much better. Might as well start out there!


SWIM already owns 2! Smile

SWIM has only used a torch lighter for experiences, since SWIM has read how much of a difference it makes for vaping the spice.
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