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experemental non nonpoler mescaline Sulfate extract Options
 
panoramix
#1 Posted : 6/6/2011 10:08:49 PM

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hay all i have bin doing some reading on the wiki.

i think i have a h2o and salfuric acid only extraction i wil try this tommorow if i can get my hands on some salfuric acid....

i dont know if this wil work..!


1kg fresh cacti (big shunks)
let it cook for 5 hours
Filter the soup
add 200ml water so you wil have a yello greenish clear soup
add Naho base the soup (let base compleatly)

add a solution of sulfuric acid
put the soup in the freezer until just above freezing.
sollits wil formd mescaline sulfate is not soluble in neer freezing water (1)
Collect Solliden
cleaning with IPA and acetone(2)

Freebase Mescaline
Moderately soluble in: water

Mescaline Sulfate Dihydrate (1)
Almost insoluble in: near freezing water, alcohol, "acetone Possible unreliable web source"(2)

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#2 Posted : 6/7/2011 1:03:01 AM

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Wow, that's a great idea, I hope this will work !

However wouldn't it be better to perform 3*2h boils rather than a 5h boil ?
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#3 Posted : 6/7/2011 1:27:16 AM

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Good luck to you.. but I tried a similar strategy and it did not work. I made tea in my usual fashion, reduced to 100ml or so, added ~600 ml acetone, removed the precip'ed cellulose, added sulfuric acid, and put it in the freezer for 2 weeks. I got a very few crystals to precip, and they tasted sour like acid and nothing like what I was looking for.
 
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#4 Posted : 6/7/2011 5:22:42 PM

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hola

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However wouldn't it be better to perform 3*2h boils rather than a 5h boil ?


i have 1 5hr boil in a flask Razz if this works in a way, than we could experement with some boiltime hihi

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added ~600 ml acetone, removed the precip'ed cellulose, added sulfuric acid, and put it in the freezer for 2 weeks


ok thats good to know hehe, but im not so certain that mescaline sulfate is insoliuble in acetone.

whel i based it 15 min a go and letting it cool for now. i got me self some salfuric acid so i wil post the resulds when i have them.

greets pano
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#5 Posted : 6/7/2011 5:34:41 PM

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you're just going to end up with a good deal of sodium sulfate salts and hydrolyzed plant sugars.

the whole point of using a nonpolar solvent is to separate the alkaloids from water soluble salts and plant carbohydrates. a nonpolar phase in this particular type of extraction is necessary, don't avoid it.
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#6 Posted : 6/7/2011 5:43:29 PM

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sulfate salts are not soluble in acetone, and the tone keeps the solution from freezing solid in the freezer. Check out dgs sulfate salt recrystallization write up for more info. I think benzy is right, that seems to agree with the salts that I got to precip.
 
panoramix
#7 Posted : 6/7/2011 6:37:44 PM

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hola


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you're just going to end up with a good deal of sodium sulfate salts and hydrolyzed plant sugars


mmm om I notice that, it whas worht a try hehe Razz

thenkx for the info btw Very happy


greets, Pano
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