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christian
#1 Posted : 6/3/2011 7:25:59 AM

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Last night i had an awesome dream. I won't go into details except will mention that there were recurrent themes, and reminders to my past travels, as well as insights about a girl i fancied,etc. This morning the same question entered my mind that has bugged me the last month.(Firstly realise that my dreams have recently been incredibly lucid, psychadelic, and downright mindblowing!)

-In order to dream well, surely we must live our days well. Therefore, Maybe the whole point of us being here is because we can control our dream trips by how we choose to live our waking lives. Is this what it's really all about?? Are we really just a trip that has somehow created this human body to allow the trip to have some control from us on earth??..Would this explain the human need to try and control everything, or ocd, anxiety,etc....???

-Well, perhaps not, but it did seem so for a few moments. I'm finding my dreams much more of an incredible experience than my daytime life. But then again i'm not going out and partying. Do you think that my dreams are instead compensating for this waking "lack of fun" aspect in my life perhaps??- your thoughts please.Wink
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#2 Posted : 6/3/2011 11:51:36 AM

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I dont think there is necessarily a relationship between living daily life well and "good" dreams. I've often have bad dreams as opposed to my awesomely productive and learning day, or vice versa. To me it feels more like the dreams are like the "defragmenting" process of the brain, where things get sorted out emotionally, experiences integrated unconsciously.

I think the ideal is to make the most out of all the different states we do access. So sleeping well (which doesnt necessarily mean lucid/good dreams, I think bad dreams might also have their important function), being as aware in daily life as possible, learning and integrating psychedelic experiences, etc.. Having it as a coordinated and balanced healthy continuum of consciousness within the natural oscillations, changes and dynamism. Smile
 
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#3 Posted : 6/3/2011 12:04:18 PM

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I often find dreams can be our brains trying to simulate what we are missing that we need in our waking life.

In my dreams I find I often see the things I want or miss. Being in places, seeing people and doing things I can't physically achieve.

Equally so if I'm quite worried I'll have a dream that something very uncomfortable happens and upon waking up I am thankful for where I'm at afterwards.

When life's going well, I hardly remember any of my dreams.
 
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#4 Posted : 6/3/2011 1:26:31 PM

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Yes, some good points there that have resonated nicely. Thanks for the replies.

-From these replies i'm now thinking along the lines that when we dream we are relaxed, and free from the shackles of our daily routines. That it's the only time for a lot of us when our true beliefs, and inner self can communicate with us on a higher plane. And that is done by dreams.....

-However i think that there is definately truth in the fact that our dreams are also REAL, AS MUCH AS OUR WAKING LIVES.And that what doesn't get done in our waking lives will be done in our dream lives....Cool

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soulfood wrote:

When life's going well, I hardly remember any of my dreams.



same

I find my dreams are always a reinterpretation, or a recollection, of anything I've ever sensed in my life. Does that have any utility for me? Absolutely not. Do I get any fulfillment from them? no.
Dreams aren't going to pay back my loans or complete experiments for me. I can't
really reference them in a resume, or cite them in references. The short amount of time
in my day I do spend dreaming typically doesn't have anything useful to supplement the relative majority of the time I actually function; that isn't a subject for debate either, it's just how it is for me.
they're such a subjective phenomenon, left to interpretation of the dreamer.
I understand they're shrouded in mystique, like every other intangible aspect of life

I'll admit, some fantastic ideas may manifest from dreams, however I contend that they
are usually elaborations of ideas manifested while awake.
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#6 Posted : 6/3/2011 4:42:54 PM

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I had some very recent dreams that are kinda interesting. In two dreams I had, I was dreaming that I took acid and then "went to sleep" (even though I was already dreaming). I would end up "waking up" into another dream tripping on acid. Everything had the same distortions and patterns that I would expect had I really taken acid. It would only be later that I would actually wake up for real and realize I never took acid in the first place Confused

Two nights ago, I had a dream I shoveled a handful of FB DMT into my mouth (luckily it doesn't burn in dreams Wink ). Unfortunately right after doing so, I realized I had not taken any MAOIs, soooo....nothing happened Very happy

I've been killed in numerous ways in my dreams but last night was the first time I was machine gunned to death. It didn't hurt, but I could definitely feel my physical body spasm with each bullet that entered. I remember getting shot in the head and the back, and even as I lay on the floor, "dead", I continued to be shot in the face, neck and shoulders.
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#7 Posted : 6/3/2011 6:54:19 PM

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Wow, That's some dreaming!!- I must admit that i've had some dreams very similar.Very wierd ones that seem to repeat themselves. I dunno, i guess it must be my brain trying to make sense of all the emotions that are unconsiously released during all the interesting reading i've been doing lately on the Nexus. The trip reports are so well written that one might as well be on the stuff!!Very happy

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#8 Posted : 6/4/2011 12:48:22 AM

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I used to have lots of lucid dreams and would invariably wake up, sometimes four or five times a night, very annoying. So I decided to investigate and started a regimen designed to promote lucid dreaming; the hope was that if I could learn to `control my dreams' I would be less startled when lucidity occurred and consequently be able to sleep through the night. After a couple weeks of mental gymnastics I got to the point where my recall of dreams improved dramatically. When I read through my dream journal the only thing that stood out was that my dreams were just bizarre, so bizarre that I decided there was probably a good reason why we are not built to recall them... I promptly tore the pages out of my journal and reversed the sense (so to speak) of the regimen so that instead of enhancing dream recall and promoting lucidity while dreaming those things were suppressed.

Of course I still dream, and they can still be pretty bizarre, but I don't become lucid as often and only get awoken because of dreaming once or twice a night (if at all).

That said... there are some pretty interesting things about dreaming and I have no problem understanding how the concept of "dream worlds" arises--it is not at all unusual for me to recall dreaming of being in a dream-place I've been before or interacting with dream-people I've interacted with in past dreams (sometimes years in the past!)
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