A good friend of mine says he ordered 3 grams of Harmine from Flowing Visions and a decent amount of Psychotria Viridis from Psycoactive Herbs. He plans to brew the psychotria viridis in a solution of lemon juice and distilled water in a crock pot for 24 hours then straining through a cotton tee shirt. He plans on repeating that process 3x times each time keeping the strained out lemon water solution then reducing to a few ounces of rich solution. He has only done any thing like this once before when he made ayhuasca that was a whole lot of purging and zero desired effects. If any one knows a better way to do this I will be sure to let him know. He was also wondering how to and how much FV harmine to take? Thanks everybody my friend will be very thankfull for the advice.

I'm pretty sure all you need is 250mg harmine. Also your boils seem excessively long. If you do three 3-hour boils, you should get pretty much all of the alkaloids out. I've only worked with mimosa and not psychotria, but I think that should still be right. Also, when you say zero desired effects, what were the undesired effects you got? I would also point out (and this is just technicality) but I think your experiment is closer to ayahuasca than pharmahuasca, but then again I can see it going either way I suppose.

Ya the 3 grams of Harmine are for more than one does. From what I have read a guy swims size (6'1" and 160LB) should take about 200mg of Harmine does that sound right? Would 250mg be better? Your right about swims boils being excessively long but after my first failed attempt he's going overboard on the extraction to rule it out as the problem. The only real effect Swim got at all was a bad ass purge, so at least swim know he got the tannins and probably most of the harmalas from the cappi vine. Ya this is a pharmahuasca/ayhuasca hybrid type deal I just didnt want to say ayhuasca as not to insult those whole take the shamonic ritual of ayhuasca seriously. Thanks for your help

if brewing psychotria viridis leaves by themselves, i would think that 3 (20 min) boils would be quite sufficient, especially if the leaves are really dry, as they often are. the water will go black. also, go easy on the lemon juice--remember you want to be able to stomach it it is the vine that needs the long boil, but the leaves much less.

O got I didnt know it was the cappi that needed the long boil. That make it a million times easier to be able to get it done in one day. Thanks

ayahuasca analoge? remember, that your harmine extract may be the problem, try some syrian rue, its cheap and strong

Ya this is an ayahuasca analoge but swims first attempt was at ayahuasca that for some reason didnt do anything but cause massive purging. Swim has yet to try any pure Harmine only extracted cappi vine. Also I have about a pound of rue seed but my extraction for some reason faild to percipitate out any harmalas. All I got out of it was the salt that I put into it. I plan on doing a new extraction soon except this time I will keep all sediment on the bottom then wash with pure ethly alcohol keep the ethyl and evaporate. Does that sound about right? How do you extract your rue seed? Thanks

Extracts are always trickier than they seem, without the right exipment,
and because my lab is a garage setup with out ph meters and other such things
i always eat the raw syrian rue, wich has pros and cons, the pro is u get all the harmala, none goes down the drain, but you may get more stomach discomfort
the sediment? i would be careful not to get any of the salts mixed in with what your puting in your body

ya I know what you mean about extractions being tricky I seriously failed on my first attempt. My set up is even worthy of moving to the garage either haha.

i just failed at my first ttempt to extract mimosa, and wasted 50 grams, so dont feel bad,
guess we just have to learn, or buy a lab

I would recommend 250mg harmine still. I'm about 5 inches shorter, but that's what I would give myself. Also tannins aren't the only part that cause nausea. DMT itself is nauseating. It can just be much more helpful to remove all the tannins to try and reduce as much as possible. I've never worked with psychotria so I can't really speak much to it

Thanks Swim is going to take 250mg for sure then. Ya thats why swims going with the Harmine instead of cappi brew, hes learned his lesson purging on vine.