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#1 Posted : 4/21/2011 12:57:18 AM

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Stillwater Police Department officers arrived at 523 N. Stanley about 8 p.m. to serve a simple city warrant to a man residing there.

Hours later, a hazmat team left with a trailer full of evidence from a drug bust not seen in Stillwater in decades.

"We came up to serve the warrant," said officer Thomas Comstock. "When they opened the door, it was like ‘Cheech and Chong' all over again."

After wading through the marijuana smoke, Comstock said he and fellow officers found what appeared to be a well-developed mescaline and dimethyltryptamine lab. Dimethyltryptamine, or DMT as it is commonly called, and mescaline are psychedelic drugs, Comstock said.

Comstock said police arrested five people ages 17 to 23, some of which may have been students or former students at Oklahoma State University.

A call to the Payne County Jail revealed the arrestees had not been booked there, and calls to the Stillwater Jail were not immediately returned.

Officer Royce Stephens was the lead officer on the case, and said this was only the second DMT lab he can remember.

Stephens said it has been more than a decade since he can remember hearing of a mescaline bust in Stillwater.

The process of making mescaline and DMT is different than making methamphetamines, Stephens said.

But he said there are still dangerous chemicals in play, which is why the hazmat crew was summoned.

"If these guys can make it, it must not be too hard," Stephens said.

Hazmat crews finished sealing up evidence and diluting dangerous chemicals around 10:30 p.m. And Comstock said he was ready for a break after being at the house for hours.

"(The arrestees) already got a chance to sit down," he said. "We haven't had a break."


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#2 Posted : 4/21/2011 1:01:06 AM

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Lab?

Jeezus the po do like stroking their own poles, don't they?

Sounds like they busted some young stoners and gave themself a raise.
 
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A chemical and a bottle or bowl to mix it Seem's to constitue a lab. It's offen just used for shock factor.
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#4 Posted : 4/21/2011 1:34:42 AM

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"If these guys can make it, it must not be too hard," Stephens said.


I seriously doubt this pig has any idea of wtf he's talking about.
mesc synthesis is on par with lsd synthesis in its complexity. furthermore,
a few routes call for the potentially deadly chemical dimethyl sulfate, and cyanide salts.
dmt synthesis is also not a straightforward affair, side reactions are likely to occur.
they most probably found xylene, naptha, and sodium hydroxide, and tried to spin it as if they were manufacturing controlled substances.

on a counterquote, "you don't need to have a scientific mind to be a cop, critical thinking is optional."
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#5 Posted : 4/21/2011 3:25:27 AM

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"If these guys can make it, it must not be too hard," Stephens said.


on a counterquote, "you don't need to have a scientific mind to be a cop, critical thinking is optional."


Excellent quote.
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#6 Posted : 4/22/2011 1:22:24 PM

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They had to WADE through the marijuana smoke? This smoke must have been pretty thick if it impaired movement. They diluted dangerous chemicals, WTF? Do these guys feel the need to dilute their drain cleaner to make it safer? Could they not just keep them in stable, well-sealed containers rather than diluting the chemicals?
 
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#7 Posted : 4/24/2011 1:30:34 AM

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benzyme wrote:
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"If these guys can make it, it must not be too hard," Stephens said.


I seriously doubt this pig has any idea of wtf he's talking about.
mesc synthesis is on par with lsd synthesis in its complexity. furthermore,
a few routes call for the potentially deadly chemical dimethyl sulfate, and cyanide salts.
dmt synthesis is also not a straightforward affair, side reactions are likely to occur.
they most probably found xylene, naptha, and sodium hydroxide, and tried to spin it as if they were manufacturing controlled substances.

on a counterquote, "you don't need to have a scientific mind to be a cop, critical thinking is optional."


Agree. Most likely they were extracting, but the reporter/cops thought it would sound more badass if they failed to mention that the 'precursors' required for their 'drug lab' could be found in a wide variety of legal native american plants.
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#8 Posted : 4/24/2011 5:15:01 PM

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I dunno..... The pictures in the article show a 50 gal drum and several large buckets. If that gear wasn't part of the cleanup efforts These guys were operating a lab. The hypocrisy is not lost on me....but I do not approve of a large scale operation.

Just because these substances we know and love does make the people making them good people. If that barrel was involved, I would think they have a commercial operation.

For all we know, these guys could be Using stolen identities to buy materials, dumping spent xylene.... Cutting there mesc with caffiene and selling it to toddlers.


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#9 Posted : 4/24/2011 5:46:12 PM

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madcap "...but I do not approve of a large scale operation. "
almost nobody would have ever eaten lsd if it wasnt for a few now famous chemists.
normal folk cant be expected to do EVERYTHING themselves
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IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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#10 Posted : 4/24/2011 7:43:06 PM

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I'm not familiar ith the byproducts of LSD manufacture. Back then, I never thought of those details. Through the eyes I have now, things are different. I read reports of speed labs leaving toxic waste and I don't approve of that. I don't believe that the ends justify the means.

At least when people do it themselves they are forced to be conscious of the details.

I see your point phlux. I don't want to come off preachy, I totally bought acid years ago.


My point is that as these substances get more popular, we can't just assume that all extractors are as good of people as we'd like to think they are. An operation big enough to need a 50 gallon drum, may be to big of an operation to given benefit if doubt.

Profit-driven extractors could be the same sleaze bags that are running dirty meth labs.

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#11 Posted : 4/24/2011 7:43:21 PM

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under the legal interpretation, that would be considered manufacturing, given the sheer volume
of solvents.

but they weren't manufacturing shit, they were just extracting
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#12 Posted : 4/24/2011 9:14:05 PM

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I have always believed that if you are going to perform acts in your home in which you dont want others to bother you or catch on, you follow these simple guidelines.

Keep your yard clean of debris and trash.

Keep your lawn maintained.

Keep the exterior and at least the area of your house that will be seen from the front doors and windows kept up on maintenance.

Pay all your bills and taxes on time, and abide by all city laws and regulations.

And most importantly, never leave incriminating evidence lying around. Clean up after any extractions. only buy the amount you will be extracting, even if it is cheaper to buy in bulk.. Dont keep gallons of solvents and lye sitting in a crate with funnels, jars, and pounds of mimosa... When they calculate the amount of end product you will have it will be a hundred times more than if they found a jar with a gram of dmt in it...

Keep your funnels with your gasoline in the shed, or with a few qts of oil, mix any leftover lye beads in some jars of water and give your drains a cleaning.

Keep buckets and jugs clean and together in a shed or closet.


Had these kids followed these simple steps they would not have been busted.

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#13 Posted : 4/24/2011 10:58:49 PM

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i know sweet bugger all about meth - does it leave toxic waste or something ?
i just thought it was a fairly streight foreward reduction - allthough one of the 3 key ingredients is totally toxic - how does that differ from wonderfull substances that are artificially created.
i mean even lsd comes from the totally toxic ergot fungus - yet you dont hear ppl raving about its potential destruction to the environment.
another thing is that in media - ppl often say total crap like "it is synthesized from toxic chemicals such as drain cleaner and paint stripper - well if one extracts dmt via one of the teks on the nexus - its quite probable they will ed up - ahaha " synthesizing it from toxic chemicals like drain cleaner (sodium hydroxide) and paint stripper (xylene)

i just laugh at the pigs then feel sorry for the poor victims that get bust.
i mean its just rediculous - in some places in usa - u can prostitute yourself legally - yet if you smoke a single spliff - jail 25 years.
as far as i can see - that is as retarded as it comes - same goes for most laws.
i beleve in the natural law - an it harm none do as thy wilt.
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...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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#14 Posted : 4/24/2011 11:00:34 PM

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"Keep your lawn maintained."
i dont get that - a well manicured lawn is damn ugly - who wants their garden to look like a public park or golf course ? - i like the jungle vibe myself.
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...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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#15 Posted : 4/25/2011 1:18:18 AM

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Phlux-, I've read lots of stories like this, "Once Meth Labs, Contaminated Houses Now Sicken Thousands".
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"Keep your lawn maintained."
i dont get that - a well manicured lawn is damn ugly - who wants their garden to look like a public park or golf course ? - i like the jungle vibe myself.


I disagree, if I had a lawn that was my responsibility I would keep it cut or I could take out all the grass and replace the grass with phalaris grass but there would be very little point as for some reason there is no such thing as a decent grass tek. Where are the chemists and why are they not working on a grass tek now that mimosa is much harder to get for many people?
 
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#17 Posted : 4/25/2011 2:50:32 AM

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we've been here all along, and we've been telling you guys to buy a column and learn chromatography. there are several threads on it.

but, we can't force people to listen.
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Phlux- wrote:
another thing is that in media - ppl often say total crap like "it is synthesized from toxic chemicals such as drain cleaner and paint stripper - well if one extracts dmt via one of the teks on the nexus - its quite probable they will ed up - ahaha " synthesizing it from toxic chemicals like drain cleaner (sodium hydroxide) and paint stripper (xylene)


Its not just the media, most people believe this too, just from sheer lack of knowledge. Its funny that you mention DMT like that too, on the last extraction I did my mom was around (she's cool) and she said "No wonder that shit f*cks you up. It's made with lye". After I told her that it is just used to change the pH she got it, but it was still funny.


Phlux- wrote:
"Keep your lawn maintained."
i dont get that - a well manicured lawn is damn ugly - who wants their garden to look like a public park or golf course ? - i like the jungle vibe myself.


I wholeheartedly agree with you on this point. I think natural grass/garden looks way better than that whole 'keeping up with the Joneses' look that gets perpetuated. I always felt bad decapitating the grass as well, I would apologize to it for what I was forced to do.
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ragabr wrote:
Phlux-, I've read lots of stories like this, "Once Meth Labs, Contaminated Houses Now Sicken Thousands".


Oh my fucking god ! Not pseudoephenadrine !

I feel a lot of fear based propaganda in this piece. Talking about serious problems requires science not sob stories.

As for the bust, I don't know what a "simple city warrant" is but opening the door to a cop while someone is smoking illegal drugs is just [insert a word], especially when extracting/manufacturing.

Rules aren't fair but they are simple. Lodi did a good recap.
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Seraph wrote:
as for some reason there is no such thing as a decent grass tek. Where are the chemists and why are they not working on a grass tek now that mimosa is much harder to get for many people?

benzyme wrote:
we've been here all along, and we've been telling you guys to buy a column and learn chromatography. there are several threads on it.

but, we can't force people to listen.

Haha...as evidenced, people don't want to listen...people don't want to work out kinks/procedures themselves...they want to be spoonfed a grass tek. Rolling eyes Laughing
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