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First Time Extraction Guidance Request: Q21Q21's Tek Options
 
Jawdrop
#1 Posted : 4/12/2011 12:53:21 AM

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SWIM will soon extract for the first time!

This will be using Q21Q21's Vinegar/Lime A/B Extraction Tek (Tek 2). If unfamiliar, Tek 1 describes how to achieve "Jimjam", while Tek 2 achieves "N, N, DMT". SWIM is beginner, but wants to get all they can from their ingredients which are of high quality. However, they've made themselves very comfortable and prepared for the method of Tek 2, and doesn't wish for the consistency of Jimjam anyway as he's unsure it will work for it's intended use (Changa) without significant additional work.

SWIM wonders:

-Will simply swapping the Naphtha for Xylene produce "Jungle DMT?"

-If after the final pull with Naphtha he allows all remaining Naphtha in bowl with MHRB to evaporate, then performs 3-5 pulls with Xylene--would this yield Jungle DMT as well that would be otherwise wasted/missed?

This logic appears sound, as "Jimjam" is considered the "Full-Spectrum" and reportedly yields the highest percentages across the DMT playing field, which leads me to believe the extra yield from JimJam is simply the combination of Jungle and N, N, DMT.

-Finally, and considering the above; If SWIM simply combines equal parts of White and Jungle DMT freebase crystal, does he basically have himself a batch of Jimjam without the nuisance of it's inherent consistency?

Apologies for any oversights. SWIM has put MUCH effort into researching, but some questions can be so difficult to find answers to Sad
 

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q21q21
#2 Posted : 4/12/2011 4:30:22 AM

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SWIM wonders:

-Will simply swapping the Naphtha for Xylene produce "Jungle DMT?"
Well No, it will pull Jimjam DMT. A combination of White DMT and Jungle DMT (maybe some oxides too)

-If after the final pull with Naphtha he allows all remaining Naphtha in bowl with MHRB to evaporate, then performs 3-5 pulls with Xylene--would this yield Jungle DMT as well that would be otherwise wasted/missed?
Yes, it will pull jungle that the naptha didn't pick up (or mostly-Jungle if the bark is not quite depleted)

This logic appears sound, as "Jimjam" is considered the "Full-Spectrum" and reportedly yields the highest percentages across the DMT playing field, which leads me to believe the extra yield from JimJam is simply the combination of Jungle and N, N, DMT.
Ya pretty much.
My typical naptha yield: .9%-.95%
My typical xylene/d-limonene yield: 1.2%-1.3%
The one time I did naptha pulls then d-limonene: .35%


-Finally, and considering the above; If SWIM simply combines equal parts of White and Jungle DMT freebase crystal, does he basically have himself a batch of Jimjam without the nuisance of it's inherent consistency?
Well kind of, the ratio is unknown. I'd guess 70%-85% white with the rest jimjam but others approximate much lower white.

I have 3 seperate tinctures.
White DMT (yellow after a few weeks but the same effects)
Jimjam DMT: Most used.
Jungle DMT: Interesting but I have much more Jimjam so I usually use it.

All are 4-5mg per drop and I evaporate them when I need. Still just as strong as when I made them like 6-7 months ago.

Thanks for asking questions that are not clearly in the tek Very happy
Good luck
Q21Q21's Tek: A comprehensive guide to extracting DMT
The 2 teks use non-toxic lime and vinegar and Tek 1: d-Limonene or Xylene or Tek 2: Naptha to produce very quick high yields with the greatest of ease.

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Jawdrop
#3 Posted : 4/15/2011 4:14:55 PM

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q21q21 wrote:

SWIM wonders:

-Will simply swapping the Naphtha for Xylene produce "Jungle DMT?"
Well No, it will pull Jimjam DMT. A combination of White DMT and Jungle DMT (maybe some oxides too)

-If after the final pull with Naphtha he allows all remaining Naphtha in bowl with MHRB to evaporate, then performs 3-5 pulls with Xylene--would this yield Jungle DMT as well that would be otherwise wasted/missed?
Yes, it will pull jungle that the naptha didn't pick up (or mostly-Jungle if the bark is not quite depleted)

This logic appears sound, as "Jimjam" is considered the "Full-Spectrum" and reportedly yields the highest percentages across the DMT playing field, which leads me to believe the extra yield from JimJam is simply the combination of Jungle and N, N, DMT.
Ya pretty much.
My typical naptha yield: .9%-.95%
My typical xylene/d-limonene yield: 1.2%-1.3%
The one time I did naptha pulls then d-limonene: .35%


-Finally, and considering the above; If SWIM simply combines equal parts of White and Jungle DMT freebase crystal, does he basically have himself a batch of Jimjam without the nuisance of it's inherent consistency?
Well kind of, the ratio is unknown. I'd guess 70%-85% white with the rest jimjam but others approximate much lower white.

I have 3 seperate tinctures.
White DMT (yellow after a few weeks but the same effects)
Jimjam DMT: Most used.
Jungle DMT: Interesting but I have much more Jimjam so I usually use it.

All are 4-5mg per drop and I evaporate them when I need. Still just as strong as when I made them like 6-7 months ago.

Thanks for asking questions that are not clearly in the tek Very happy
Good luck



Firstly, thank you so much for replying directly to the question. I did NOT expect a response from the writer of the tek Smile

Here's what I got from your response:

If SWIM pulls with Xylene after a full Naphtha extraction (on the same Mimosa), it'll yield Jungle DMT
If SWIM pulls with Xylene (Naphtha isn't used), it'll yield JimJam

This was actually quite confusing for me at first, but after reading what I wrote, I think I realize what's going on here (lol). A full Naphtha extraction will pull almost all of the White DMT out, so pulling on the same Mimosa with Xylene afterward would yield Jungle only because there is NO White DMT left in order for it to be a JimJam. Is this correct?

I have one last question:

What will happen if SWIM uses the White DMT Tek 2, but replaces the solvent with Xylene? SWIM literally would do nothing different from Tek 2, but swap for Xylene. Would that work? If so, wouldn't that be easier than following the first Tek?

Please feel free to ignore my questions or link me to a resource if they are answered elsewhere Smile I r hungry 4 ur knowledges!

 
 
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