Background info:
So in my out-there and way too long thread on the "Small-dose wait Main-dose" or SwM method I noticed that dosing a small dose (minimum unknown so far) then waiting, for me 1:10-1:15 minimum after first dose then dosing any dose (several times even) produces amazingly different and entirely better effects on each of 6 substances I've tried it on 100% reliably.
(See FIRST post (link right above ↑) for tests and discovery of the method, also see LAST post for suggestios on how you can try this and help me out!)
While for me the 1:10-1:15 is the minimum it is not the preferred or best time. The further away from the "initial dose" from sober and produces "Non-carrot effects" when the Main dose is taken at 3:00 or longer after the initial dose get "Carrot effects"
I use that because I like the image of a carrot growing larger from the end of a string on the end of a stick as time from the initial dose increase as if it was a seed. Then when the Main dose is taken you "get the carrot" and much on it's goodness.

Also the earlier the re-dose is, the smaller the carrot is (worse the effects are) so dosing the substance before the period increases dose required for carrot effects and ends up causing less positive effects and more side-effects.

While I experienced part-carrot large-carrot effects several times, the first time I got "FULL-sized carrot effects" on Methoxetamine, Methylone and MDPV I was shocked how I didn't feel that "high" feeling but rather felt extremely clear. Until I felt the pleasure from the doses I thought they weren't working and even prepared redoses.

Anyway this is my report.


PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set: Hopeful that the effects would be "carrot effects"
(physical condition) Set: Rested but on mild comedown from Methlone and GHB as well as a low full-carrot dose of MDP
Setting (location): My bedroom
time of day: see report
recent drug use:
1:49 prior 35mg 5htp.
2:04 prior ~1.25g GHB
3:32 prior 50mg Methylone (BK-MDMA)
last meal:
Noodles w/ veggies and seasoning 10 hours prior.
5-6 spoonfuls of fried hashbrowns with veggies and seasoning.

PARTICIPANT
Gender: m
body weight: 66kg
known sensitivities: ...anxiety prone on very-strong psychedelic effects
history of use: Experienced, Dozens of other psychedelics, dozen or so drugs. Smoked DMT +40 times, ~15 were over 25mg though.

BIOASSAY
Substance(s): 20 minutes prior 4.5mg MDPV (intra-rectal)
Dose(s): ~15mg then 4-5 min after ~20mg. (~ = approximate)
Method of administration: Vaporized in my "the-machine" bubbler


EFFECTS
Administration time: 8:23 = T=0:00
Duration: (~10 minutes, 4-5min break then ~10-11minutes)
First effects: Immediate
Peak: 4-6 minutes, many tokes over 4-5 minutes though.
Come down: ~15 minutes
Baseline: T=+50-60min (DMT effects at least)

Intensity (overall): 2-3


OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: 4
Implesantness: 0.1
Visual Intensity: 3.5



REPORT
(Copy-pasted from my psychedelic journal entry with spelling mistakes corrected and a few clarifications added)

April 9th, 2011



5:17pm
Smoking a little DMT now for carrot test later...
Maybe it might have to be done later since it is serotonergic and I've done a lot with that today (sentence I was to the point of slight CEV )

*note added while writing forum post*
The effects were mild, maybe 10-12mg smoked over 2 minutes in 3-4 small tokes. No OEVs, mild (blurry/slow/low-detail) CEVs without entities. Quite intense though.

....
many notes irrelevant to DMT report
....

8:17pm
*notes irrelevant DMT report*....

Anyway I'm gonna smoke some D.

8:45pm
That was beautiful and I'm 97% sure successful carroting.
IT was so much like the first times I did it. So much.

At doses too low to give OEVs or tracers I saw vague but very very active entities gesturing and I could decide what I wanted to see and without forcing in about 10-15 seconds it would be turned into crazy-CEV form.
IE: thought of seeing human faces. in ~5sec a form of a human appeared in the background of all the patterns then suddenly a head from the cheeks down (nose and mouth) went and chomped a few times while it moved a few times back and forth across my closed-eyed eyeline.

I ran out of DMT on the machine so I evaporate 10 drops of my 4mg/drop Jimjam-acetate tincture and reloaded.
This time it was more of the same. I kept trying to ask the entities stuff but this time they did not really respond. I thought to them "I have to smoke more for that don't I" and then a vision of a vague body eating something then blowing out smoke came.

The most amazing thing is that while I am so often overwhelmed with "intensity" of the effect and get anxious and scared I did not feel that at all.
I felt so much clearer than normal use. I could think almost like sober, normally with doses that it takes to see entities If I even do.
Several times I've experienced scary intensity with causing anxious feelings and instantly regretful thoughts with the only visuals being fast-moving patterns.

While I did not break through cause I know I currently have a knee-jerk reaction to "out-of-this-world" feelings of "OMG, I don't want this. Some people might but I don't... OMG wait it out, wait it out!" heart: THUMP, THUMP, THUMP at >120BMP

I didn't finish the 40mg. I don't actually know how much I smoked (Thinking of measuring doses for initial and then @ T=+3;00 experiment another day for exact-same dose comparison.) But I would not doubt that with these amazingly wonderful changes in effects on lower doses I believe I would have significantly less or even no anxiety on the come-up leading to regret and what-not if I did go for a breakthrough on the t=+3 hours dose.

Another time though.


Note:
I did take several other substances earlier so that may have influenced it but I have smoked DMT before while on these substances with effects NOTHING like this so I'm sure when I re-test this with DMT alone I will have the same results.

Nice post! I know that feeling, the "oh shit, I shouldn't have tried to adjust myself"...usually, if something is a bit out of wack, like if the way I lay down is wrong or something, it seems to carry over into the trip...weird, huh? And it IS usually just morphs of patterns during these thoughts...

Same story here to the letter.

I'm sorry q, I'm having difficulty understanding exactly the order of drugs taken. Correct me if I'm wrong here:

1. methylone
2. GHB
3. 5HTP
^ someone knows how to supplement well
4. 4.5mg MDPV
5. 15mg DMT
6. 20mg DMT

Ya that is correct
The MXE, methylone and MDPV effect I was refering to were on other days. I got 100% carrot DMT and MDPV on the day of the report but didn't take MXE and the methylone was <50% carrot.

First of all... Hello old friend!



I read through your long first post in the other thread. I shared it with my friend, and he wanted me to tell you that: My friend could copy and paste it up until you mentioned MDMA and claim it as his own. He doesn't know when he will have time to test this, but I spoke with him and he will send the results when they become available so I can share them with you. He also said he has always had a very strong natural craving for dairy products, especially milk. Perhaps part of Aspergers is a mutation in the rate limiting enzyme which uses L-Tyrosine, or perhaps its an absorption problem? I remember there is/was a good deal of research into autism and glutamate processing/absorption. The odd thing though, he told me he didn't have any tolerance issues with MDMA, MXE, nor Ketamine. However when asked about LSD, he told me that by the 5th dose, a 10 strip was just a waste of resources, and it most definitely wasn't a faulty batch. He didn't notice this loss of magic with DMT however. While he said tolerance issues weren't experienced with 2C-X he also told me that he hasn't played with 2C-X enough to know if it is an issue or not there. He also told me he wanted to try Methylone with MXE but after reading the recent reports in that area he decided it wasn't worth it until more research is done into the safety of that combination.

Many people have said DMT and such go very well with MXE, and that it is a profound experience. Has this been tried as a potentiator?

Also, be careful with Methoxetamine and Methylone, there are many very bad combination reports out there. They both interact with dopamine and it seems to be easy to overload with something as potent as MXE when combined with any other dopamine releaser. There was also a death reported from MDAI (serotonin releaser) and MXE being combined, though the doses in this case were outlandish even if they hadn't been directly injected, which they were, which makes assumptions of any pharmacokinetics data from that report foolish. For now, the mechanisms behind MXE (besides NMDA antagonism) are poorly understood, but any dopaminergic or serotonergic combinations must be approached very cautiously. (work doses up Shulgin style) The difference between a great night and a trip to the hospital may only be a few mg with these combinations, hopefully we will get some more useful data in the beginning of 2012.

Be careful. Be safe.

MDPV is a rather sleazy, icky, fiendish, & reptilian stimulant...

do enjoy your 'carrots',

but as far as combos go, this is not much different from DMT + cocaine, or DMT + methamphetamine -

which is, well, if i may be so bold - wrong.

or at the least, inappropriate & misguided.


(i offer this opinion in a respectful tone. no offense intended, q21q21.)