SWIM's ketamine experiences all involve experiencing this hypersphere, that as it moves appears as a full sphere, then divides into two partial spheres and loops around back into on. During the experience, it's clear that it's all one continuous object, which is why she calls it a hypersphere.

On two of her MXE journeys, she's experienced this same thing, and it sounds very similar to what you describe, though more ethereal than shining to her inner eye.

i see something similar..but its more like a tunnel thats made out of infinite points of light..and usually it was a red to purple blue color

and i havent taken any in a week..just sorta forgot about it..and havent experienced any craving to do it...i sort of look forward to the next time but i dont really care if when it happens..

i think this stuff is sorta self regulating for me..ive been way more "addicted" (more like formed habits) to other substances that are harder to use than this one..as in the effects are worse(opinion) such as cocaine..but this one seems to want to keep me from taking it too much..even though i have experience SOO few negative side effects..just my experience

(I was going to make a new thread for this but decided to post here after seeing the new guidelines...)

Subject: legal status of methoxetamine in Canada

Hola Nexians,

I live in Canada and might like to acquire some MXE, but I'm confused about its legal status here.

Looking at this law, it seems that ketamine was made illegal because it was found to be an analogue of PCP: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/h...docs/notice-avis-eng.php

I don't know enough about chemistry to know whether the "analogue" status is open to interpretation or whether it's automatic.

A similar discussion on bluelight: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/h...docs/notice-avis-eng.php

Can anyone shed more light on this? How about the canadians here that tried MXE? No problems at the border?

As far as I know MXE hasn't been scheduled in Canada yet.

-Update-

I haven't used MXE in quite a while and feel no compulsion to overuse this substance anymore. There was a period of time where I was using every day, or every other day, but after a while I simply didn't even want to take it anymore. I still got effects, but the novelty wore off. I will use MXE again in the future, but I can safely say that I'm not worried about becoming addicted.. withdrawal hasn't been an issue for me.

How long do typical effects last?

if taken orally the effects start at ABOUT the one hour mark and last for about 3-6 hours..its hard to say really but then there are secondary effects..that can last for a few days afterwards...

these secondary effects are antidepressant...motivational..overall wellbeing...but they are very mild..and nice..

I just got my methoxetamine today!
Did small sublingual allergy test... looking forward to doing a full dose

Thanks Jork, is oral a better roa compared to insuff, maybe sublingual?

Tried 20mg insufflated, then 10mg 30 and 60 minutes later. Definate effects, but I mainly felt like I was sobering up from a big drinking session. No psychadelic effects to speak of. I didn't really enjoy it, but the set & setting could have been better on reflection.

At what dose do most experience CEV's?

i find that this chemical isnt really useful for getting definite visuals..but that its way better for introspection...you wont get many closed eye visuals...smoking some weed helps..but these visuals are very faint in my experience...

i feel like taking enough to get visuals from this stuff puts you in a very very DRUGGED state.which hasnt been useful to me really..it just feels like being very very drugged..lower doses are more useful for thinking and working through thoughts..

also i feel that taking it orally is a much more potent way of taking MXE..insulf..is just sorta blah..you feel effects but they arent as full as when taken orally..

i also noticed in a few experiments that when i take say 20mg of mxe with a good multivitamin..the effects are much stronger..and i feel a lot more alert and energized the next day.

the best way to have visuals with this stuff is to smoke dmt with it..the dmt sort of gets characterized by the mxe thats already in your body..changes the effects..and makes the whole experience extremely involved..

I can enter a full on visionary, yet very attached state at around the 80mg mark going into full immersion around 100mg. Your brain will kind of switch off around here though.

DMT on MXE can be very interesting though. 40mg with 20mg DMT vaped on the peak can be very... very interesting.

Just to add to the MXE banter, I had a very deep therapeutic session with it on Saturday eve. Myself and 3 good friends (there first time) combined 30mg oral with a pinch of liberty cap mushrooms each, with a liberal dusting of spliffs on top.

The experience was fun to begin with, very surreal, the mushrooms pulling us one way, the MXE quite another...not a tug of war so much, more of a playful and amusing tussle. Lots of interesting chats on reality and such, at times I found it hard to remember what was being discussed, but felt very cosy and content both engaging in conversation, and just listening. Seems to be somewhat of an opener and social lubricant if you're all on it together, more so than ketamine anyway.

Later, we decided to call it a night, and this is where it got deep. 2 of my friends went to bed and promptly fell asleep. Myself and another friend tried, but failed. I was experiencing some amazing distortions of perception in the darkness, and sleep seemed far away, my friend was on the same level. Then it started to get intense, very intense...some serious therapy and examination of demons and recent personal faults. The nature of this reminded me greatly of Iboga in fact. It wasn't pleasant or fun, that's for damn sure, and my friend in the morning told me he experienced something similar. He said he felt a physical pain, and when his awareness started to probe it, it released visions of things he needed to confront and dispel...very Ibogaesque I thought. This went on for some hours, sleep evaded me and the therapy continued, eventually relenting slightly.

Anyway to cut a long story short, this experience has led to some real world changes that I have gone about making, and as a major bonus I seem to have been cured of raging insomnia that seems to have been affecting me badly of late. So yeah a unexpected and interesting and multifaceted experience, unlike any before, or any combination before.

This very much matches SWIM's experience. When she stays in a social setting, the experience doesn't get very deep, but if she allows herself space, particularly in the dark, it can go very far out there.

I'm interested to try combinations hearing this and having the experience I had with MXE visuals.

I took 10mg MXE orally on the comedown of some methylone and after taking 50mg 5-htp (couple months ago) and the methylone comedown as well as 5-htp can produce mild CEVs, anything that causes rapid production of serotonin does that but when I laid down to veiw the CEVs I saw magnificent stories, entities and mystic scenery with odd confusing symbolism.

When I took 20mg MXE the next time, this time without anything else I avidly waited for the peak hoping to see double the CEV effects as last time! But there was nothing, no different than sober. Even up to 35mg, my current max, I've yet to get CEVs on MXE alone.

Wonder how low of a dose could illicit potentiation of CEVs.. taking 2mg with any psychedelic to make the visuals much more with barely influencing the trip... one can only hope!

I've found 30mg mxe with 1.5g cubes to be an amazing combo. Much disasociative wonderings with the creative musings of mushrooms is awesome for undoing bad childhood conditioning

I'll soon be experimenting with MxE and I was wondering how it would do as a comedown from other substances? Would it ease the comedown at a low dose or just extend it? I.e. could it help bring sleep sooner than without or is it not even worth it?

In my experience extend, lots more than expected. 5mg taken I think 6 hours after first 15mg produced effects stronger than the first dose... Have to try to replicate that to make sure it wasn't a one-time fluke though.
Really the comedown is not to be worried about (on doses up to 35mg I can say for sure) lasting 1:30 to 2:00 followed by an amazing afterglow.

Edit:Wow, read that wrong. Thought you were talking about taking MXE on MXE comedown. ha.

MXE is defo not a comedown drug.

With MXE I can't sleep for shit. Makes coffee look like it didn't even go to school.

^ really? So it's a dissociative and a stimulant? I always thought of this class of molecules as depressants..guess not. It seems odd though because I would assume at a full dose of a dissociative like that one would be just laying there in a trance almost as if asleap, at least thats how people look on ketamine to me if they take enough to hole..never taken it though..only dissociative I have used is salvia which is def not stimulating, different thing though.