Hello all,

After extensive research on the Pharmahuasca threads, I plan on partaking of my first pharmahuasca experience this Friday after work. In order to simplify the process, I decided to go with Caapi Copy for my MAOI. I will experiment with the extraction process with cappi vine in the future. In order to get the best advice possible from everyone, I want fellow Nexians to know that I have experimented extensively with other psychedelics such as LSD and mushrooms. I have also "blasted off" on fb dmt close to 100 times. However, I now wish to partake of a longer journey that may allow for further introspection.

Based on the advice of the forum, my plan is as follows:
- ingest 200 mgs of Caapi Copy in a capsule (with a hole in the end to aid with absorption)
- 15-20 minutes after ingesting the Caapi Copy, I will mix a few thimbles of water with 2 capsules of Vitamin C (or lemon water, im not sure yet), then add 75 mgs of fb dmt to the mixture until dissolved. I will then drink this.
* If the effects are not as strong as desired, I am still debating whether to solve this by ingesting more dmt fumarate, or smoking some changa.

My main questions are the following:
- If I desire to increase the intensity of the trip, would you advise more dmt fumarate, or to smoke some changa?
- If I understand correctly, besides eating sensibly the few days before the journey, no special maoi diet is required with Caapi Copy. Is this correct?
- Considering I have had very intense experiences with both LSD/Psilocybin and DMT FB, is the above dose of 75 mgs too light?

I look forward to your advice and this experience. Happy travels to all.

Sounds like a good plan, although I would mix the the MAOI and DMT together and ingest them at the same time. At least that's how I plan on doing it, my reasons can be summed up by something 69ron said:

Interesting... sounds like good advice to me. Any advice on what I should/shouldn't be eating prior to my journey?

Also, if i'm going to take the caapi copy at the same time as the dmt fb mixed with lemon juice, should i just mix the caapi copy in the lemon juice too, or take it by itself via capsule, or mixing it in another glass?

Well if you take it in a capsule, the capsule is going to need time to dissolve, so I would just mix it in with the juice. Or you can mix the dmt with lemon juice then let it dry out and put it in a capsule along with the caapi copy, but I don't know how well that would work.

As for the diet, everyone is different, personally I've never had any problems mixing foods with RIMA's. But the experience does seem better when you avoid those certain foods for a few days prior (this is from experience with Rue, or mushrooms+Rue). As for the foods to avoid, the lists are available on the internet somewhere, I think the best way is to just eat fruits and veggies a few days prior, and then only fruit juices the day before and the day of (not %100 on this though).

Here is the list

http://deoxy.org/maoidiet.htm


I have no experience with taking this substance combination, but would like some more further confirmation regarding what 69ron mentioned. From what i've seen, a lot of people are waiting 20-30 minutes.

I think the shamans would have it right, which is why I find some of the ayahuasca teks to seem a bit off as well (boiling 5 times for 45 minutes, or 3 times for three hours, etc) when they do quite longer boils.

Im hoping we can get some more info and opinions on these things.

I can attest to the method of mixing harmalas and dmt together, simmering down and scrapping then putting into gel caps working very well. I got no nausea at all this way.
If you aren't as far out as you want to be after 2 hours or so, you can either take more caapi copy and dmt or smoke some changa.
It's hard to say how far 75 mg will get you as sensitivity seems to vary wildly from person to person.
GOOD LUCK!

There is no reason I need to wait for everything to evaporate so I can put it into a capsule later, right? I assume that is what you would do if you are creating capsules for use at a later date. As long as I plan to partake immediately, I can just mix everythign up in lemon juice, right?

Yeah, I don't see any reason why not.