lbeing789...

you're alright

Can you link me that thread? With a condom of course because...bluelight.

I think MXE is the ultimate internet drug. Could you pass me my arm?

I'm still also thinking very scanner darkly on this one

We're getting a bit of syncro on this - one of my other BL posts talked about it being the ultimate internet drug, I remarked about feeling wired in and I even talked about getting a dentist type/matrix like chair for helping with it came out of the trip feeling like a whack job but amazingly you can't actually buy chairs like that for computer work... someone would make a fortune... I've PM'ed you the links to the MXE threads on BL... others can find them by googling or just searching the site... I'm not going to advertise them here.

I never liked scanner darkly though, just too much content, felt like it was throwing a lot of stuff out there without enough connections, maybe I should give it another chance. I was straight when I watched it

3 weeks off MXE for me, really looking forward to doing it again this weekend, hope my tolerance has subsided a bit...

Actually I'm really hoping some research gets done with regards to effects and long term safety and that attitude towards chemicals change because it would be awesome to have a soma like drug for the masses, like Huxley envisioned (controversial I know, but look at caffeine) and the whole ibogaine stuff just blows my mind because I'm really starting to think that maybe a lot of modern problems are really related to our lack of other folk medicines (chemicals in plants) and if that is the case, science may one day make new drugs based on these properties/ but they may even be considered nutrients!?.

RE: loss of taste. The first lingering after effect I noticed after my first trial with MXE (I believe it was ~20mg total) was decreased sense of taste and hot/cold the following day. I took a sip of coffee and could barely taste it, and it simply felt warm even tho it was steaming hot and slightly burned the surface of my tongue (I could feel pain on the very surface, but it didn't penetrate and significantly bother me).

These effects were not permanent, and I do consider them an expected response from a dissassociative. What surprised me was that they lingered for >24hrs... I assumed MXE wore off relatively quickly and didn't linger like DXM can. I should note however, that I am one of the 'slow metabolizers' of DXM and can feel a 200mg dosage of DXM for 48 hours (it took me 4 days to recover fully from a 700mg dose). I am not implying that metabolism of DXM and MXE occur by similar methods, just drawing a parallel between my personal experiences...

Jeebus, not to derail this post too much, but I just wanted to chime in on a bit of synchronicity: I was on wiki earlier and started researching AS after reading the article about the genius kid @ IU studying astrophysics that had it, and am convinced that my dad was AS... I have even noted a couple symptoms that I display, but some of the more common traits I do not relate to at all (I am very in tune with the facial expressions/mannerism/speech styles of others, for example, and even readily assimilate/impersonate them very quickly, which is the opposite of what you would expect from AS personality).

Anyway, I have been noting many 'coincidences' today so felt I should share this one.

</digression>

this is my favourite thread ever

EDIT: I read the rest of the comments regarding my post. Ya, point taken. That whole report was fairly useless with the exception of advocating ridiculous behavior with unresearched and possibly extremely dangerous substances.

I do not want to be responsible for anyone deciding to follow the path that I took and (possibly narrowly) survived without as-of-yet noticeable damage.

I apologize for bringing that kind of vibe to the Nexus.


CLIFFS FROM ORIGINAL POST: I was romanticizing a dangerous combination and seriously wreckless behavior and several people called me out on my stupidity and the risk involved with advocating that sort of thing. I did include a tiny, one sentence disclaimer at the end of the post recommending not to follow in my footsteps, but this was nearly unnoticeable amongst all the praise I lent to my idiotic decision.

Re-write of the original post that I hope illustrates the useful aspects of my experience, without advocating hedonistic behavior:


I combined synthetic cannabinoid, alcohol, and MXE (50-60mg). The alcohol significantly impaired my ability to consume the substance in a responsible manner, and endowed me with a feeling of invulnerability that, on top of the dissociation from the MXE, could have led to a dangerous situation (recall people wigging out on PCP and throwing people across rooms, that could have been me...) No immediate physical side effects were noted, but bad reactions HAVE been reported from combining alcohol with MXE, so it is best to steer clear of this. The experience was enjoyable, but I feel no need to repeat it, especially after reflecting on how bad it could have turned out.

RE: ADDICTION POTENTIAL

I have been addicted to substances in the past, and can see the addiction potential with this substance as well. Although I do not feel that it is on the same level as say, heroin (which I was addicted to for a time), this may just be my personal experience. I used MXE for 4 days straight: once in the morning 10-15 mg, then several times in the evening 30-40mg total, then wasted most of 24 hours doing bumps until it was gone over the weekend (friday night and most of Saturday, perhaps 150-200mg throughout the course of it). This is not an abnormal pattern for me when encountering a new substance, and I really don't feel the desire to acquire any more of it. However, as I said, that is not to say that other people might not fall in love with it instantly and not be able to stop. This is just my experience...

RE: ANTI-ADDICTIVE POTENTIAL

Several days after the 24 hour bender (I did sleep for 4 hours or so in the middle of it) I began to examine the patterns that I exhibit with substance use, and felt compelled to begin reading several self-help books that I had laying by my bed collecting dust for entirely too long. I recall reading of one person's experience with MXE decreasing (or eliminating? I can't remember) his/her desire to consume alcohol and marijuana. In the short term, I did not find this to be the case (I think I drank MORE the last two weekends than I normally do). However, now several weeks out from the experience, I really have no interest in abusing my body and mind, have been meditating twice daily, trying to integrate repressed emotions and difficult experiences, overall feeling great without wanting to party on the weekend (or ever, for that matter).

Tbh, though, this is only my first week of making the decision to quit abusing substances, and the weekend is looming on the horizon. Sometimes I feel like this all week and then Friday night rolls around and it's party time. However, I have definitely been viewing life in a different light since this experience...Time will tell...

I should mention; I have been an "every weekend all weekend" drinker for several months, and before that was abusing it daily, sometimes pounding a beer in the morning to kill a hangover. It is possible that the decision to stop using harmful substances would have happened without the MXE experience, given that I had cut back from daily to weekly already. However, I can definitely say that the MXE experience led me to take an honest look at the kind of life I want to experience, and that it would not be possible while regularly abusing any substance.

I will stress this point one more time: I believe that MXE has played a role in my decision to have a more healthy and substance-free life experience. But, if one is experiencing addiction, I think it would be against one's best interest to seek out MXE with the hope that it will cure them or help them; there is a good chance one might just end up addicted to MXE instead of some other drug.

Yeah this quote doesn't sound good, you seem to be saying it like a mantra or something... this is not a drug that forgives that kind of behaviour- unless you want to get sectioned, a lot of people consider themselves "wreckless" with their drug use, but reckless use with PCP analogues is like playing Russian roulette with less bullets.. that's not even a good analogy because there are worse things than dying. "I would have treated any new substance in the same manner" - that's not smart at all - I don't understand how you can have such an attitude whilst reading self help books. I'm surprised you thrown yourself into something so dangerous... that whole second paragraph sounds like a manic episode by the way... people need to realise that even if you're feeling really good, things can be going very badly in your brain and at those levels you can "snap" and wake up in an asylum.... I'm surprised as well that you're speaking of the quality of alcohol in the mix, did you ever do the drug without alcohol? because MXE is widely reported to have negative interactions with it, it tends to make people feel sick, also increases the chances of blackouts... I've read several TR's that don't enjoy it and most of the negative MXE reports involve getting drunk.

I wouldn't recommend using alcohol and MXE together... and for all the thread readers, again, daily usage/or finishing your bag all in one go is just foolish, we know what happens to people when they abuse these drugs.

Will be testing mxe this weekend. Came home and had missed the postman so it's in the local sorting office with some new scales too

Can't wait to try it after reading everyones reports.

Seconded..thanks for pointing this out ibeing.. This sort of posting really doesnt have much of a place here. Noone is saying that this is wrong or right, as the only person you may or may not harm here is yourself, yet it doesnt seem like you got much out of you week long mxe binge that is relevant to this forum, and you combined it dangerousily with alcohol and posted about it here. There are other forums where posts related to these sorts of experiments are more relative. This is the DMT nexus and we support a healthy and respectable level of work with DMT and related compounds, and that post just does not fit that criteria..

Please lets not let the nexus get known for talking of combos like "... and it meshes great with alcohol and 018 (and I would assume the herb)....."

We are here for the exploration of DMT and its allies, and responsible use of them.

Personaly I have no problem with members coming here and reporting experiences that are meaningfull, or talk of how the experienced has changed them, but the post above text sounds like you are looking to get fucked up.

Maybe bluelight would be a forum more suited to this kind of talk?

It wouldn't have gone down well at bluelight either.

Anyone experienced stomach problems with this substance? ive had some weird stomach pains from frequent but small doses...

I wrote about odd feelings in my abdomen when I first started, but they went away after I took a long break and never really came back. Others have written about this, but it seems to be more like some kind of physical hallucination than a serious problem, ketamine users have also had this from time to time, it actually seemed to resolve itself on MXE like some kind of nervous apparition, but don't take my word for it I'm not a doctor.. if you're doing it so frequently it could be more related to use, take a break until they go away... it could also be unrelated. If these things are causing harm [and they absolutely could be] the key is to take big breaks and let yourself heal up.

<edited>

I have found eating it to be far too strong... It gives me severe fog and I stumble around like I'm drunk. Not much euphoria really. Just made me feel very weird.. Completely in control but intoxicated at the same time. Not even worth bothering with for me.

Snorting it produces more of a stim like effect.. I much prefer this and 20mg is all fine right now. Via this method I feel like dancing and going outside to explore. People interest me.

Also, are any of you guys on medication whilst taking this stuff? I currently take 150mg Bupripion so was wondering if there would be any potential interactions?

Also, thanks for bringing Changa to my attention.. sounds like it could do something for me.

Yeah maybe it's not best for a reference towards this experience, but I feel with MXE I can slip between moment in a way that reminds me of the style of the film, rather than any direct link to the plot and themes discussed.

I'd just like to add somthing I have found out about higher dosages.

It seems to be dosages above the 70mg mark seem to give about 2-3 hours of the MXE effects that I find desirable, then around 4 hours of a kind of burned out feeling. I also don't get the afterglow with these large doses, which to me is missing out on the most beneficial part of the experience. I think the only benefit in the larger doses are for those in search of the more extreme sensory/visual effects and don't apply as well to those looking to this substance for its therapetic value.

Typically my most glowing experiences have occured around the 25-40mg area where after the initial disasociative phase I have no negative physical side effects and can strongly feel any benefit from insight gained.

It´s not very frequent tbh. i havent even done a gram total of this stuff yet... with frequent i meant more like every weekend for a month and less than 50mg per night.

My diet has been slacking alot too so it could probably be from that aswell as my coffe consumtion has gone up.

Yes, I have used MXE without alcohol. No, I never got sick from mixing it with alcohol. Yes, my behavior was quite wreckless. I apologize for not illustrating the stupidity of my actions, so thank you for mentioning it. In hindsight I regret advocating it at all, I will edit and add a disclaimer to encourage people not to be mixing RCs with other substances. Also, I appreciate your concern regarding my addictive/wreckless behavior, some communities tend to advocate this type of behavior and it is refreshing to know the Nexus seems to not be one of them.

MXE + Alcohol = I survived, but others have reported bad reactions so this is not recommended

Also, I read of a fatal reaction from mixing MDAI and MXE a few months back, so this is probably an incredibly bad idea as well...

That episode actually sparked my renewed interest in self-help books, kind of a wakeup call to the chaos/lack of discipline/wrecklessness that I seem to be prone to. Luckily I survived, other individuals may experience different results...

Yeah, surviving is not the issue, permanent psychosis would be more my concern... and let's not forget about permanent damage to your body, that's also a possible outcome. My concern with your post was the use of words,it's like you were saying - I just get fucked up, that's just what I do.. almost masking the responsibility on yourself, not a good stance. that's never going to be encouraged on any forum I hope.