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Ya
#1 Posted : 3/29/2011 4:29:07 PM

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Imagine you have a friend with whom you would like to share the opportunity to experience the spirit molecule.
Please share with the Nexus Community the words you would choose to introduce this opportunity to your friend.

And please don't tell posters above you, "No, you're using the wrong words! That's not the right way to do it!"
Please simply post what words YOU personally would use to introduce this choice to your friend in the right way.

Some might attempt to derail the thread by posting critiques of others, but such posts don't deserve a response.
Let's simply make this thread a beautiful collection of heart-touching explanations: from you to your best friend.

You know, from the beginning that is maybe something like, "Michael, there's something I want to share with you..."
all the way to the final moment when one asks something like, "So, is this something you would like to experience?"


I have not decided what words to use, so I am hoping this thread will become a collection of diamond-like examples.
From start to finish: meaning, from your absolute first words, to the end where you ask if your friend wants to try.

What would you say?





























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#2 Posted : 3/29/2011 9:19:01 PM

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#3 Posted : 3/29/2011 9:41:19 PM

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Ya wrote:
And please don't tell posters above you, "No, you're using the wrong words! That's not the right way to do it!"
Some might attempt to derail the thread by posting critiques of others, but such posts don't deserve a response.
Let's simply make this thread a beautiful collection of heart-touching explanations: from you to your best friend.


That kind of gainsaying does happen a lot at the Nexus!

But to answer your question, I would borrow some words from Mike Skinner:

Brace yourself, cos this goes deep
I'll show you the secrets, the sky and the birds
Actions speak louder than words
Stand by me my apprentice
Be brave, clench fists.
Oh great - the world has just been replaced by elf machinery.
Sic transit gloria mundi

 
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#4 Posted : 3/29/2011 9:48:18 PM

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morpheus wrote:

I imagine that right now you're feeling a bit like Alice...

Tumbling down the rabbit hole? Hmm?

I can see it in your eyes.

You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees, because he is expecting to wake up.

Ironically, this is not far from the truth....

Let me tell you why you're here.

You're here because you know something. What you know, you can't explain. But you feel it. You've felt it your entire life.

That there's something _wrong_ with the world.

You don't know what it is, but it's there...like a splinter in you're mind, driving you mad.

It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

The Matrix

The Matrix is everywhere.

It's all around us, even in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television.

You can feel it when you go to work, when you pay your taxes.

The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you from the truth.

The Truth

That you are a slave.

Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch.

A prison... for your mind....

Unfortunatly, no one can be told what the Matrix is...

you have to see it for yourself.


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#5 Posted : 3/30/2011 1:16:05 AM

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The quote from todays Vernon Howard Secrets of Life email might say it well,

"One part of you is entirely independent of society's confusion, so make it your task to awaken it."

Peace

Mad Banshee

Note that the poster of this message would never actually use or recommend to use illegal substances. He is just an attention seeker and should be considered to be lying about everything he posts and his posts are only for the sake of generating discussion.
 
Ya
#6 Posted : 3/31/2011 3:46:27 AM

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The ball is rolling, now: sure would be nice if some folks would post what they would say from beginning to end, the whole speech.
Perhaps the explanation you give takes 30 seconds, perhaps 3 minutes, perhaps 3 hours: what all do you really say to your friend?

For example, Antrocles, you introduce many folks to the molecule, so you have experience in giving this speech: what DO you say?
How do you begin the conversation about this opportunity, & what potential positive outcomes (& potential risks) do you mention?

Of course, your explanation must be evolving and becoming refined over time: so, if you were to give it today, what would you say?
What sentences do you feel are vital to offer to a friend before arriving at the moment when you offer them the chance to try it?

Perhaps it takes a lot courage to share with the whole community the actual words you use to introduce this wonderful opportunity.
Perhaps folks are scared that their "speech" will be critiqued by others: don't worry, everyone here will simply post THEIR speech.

I sure am looking forward to seeing a wide variety of beautiful heart-touching speeches, written exactly as you would/do speak them.
I sure am hoping folks will use this thread as an opportunity to NOT criticize others, to simply post the words that YOU would/do say.

So, let's hear from everyone who has ever introduced or considered introducing a friend to spice: What would YOU say? What DO you say?






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#7 Posted : 3/31/2011 4:38:48 AM

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What I would and do say varies from person to person. Quite frankly different people need to hear different things. If the person appears outwardly afraid or hesitant, they need to hear something quite different than the cautiously enthusiastic person. Most often, a lot of the talk focuses on holding in the hits for as long as possible and things like that of a technical nature. I also emphasize keeping the eyes closed as many first-timers especially seem inclined to look around with open eyes in awe. I don't really know if I like the idea of generalizing or speech writing. I just take each situation as it comes. I'm sorry if this is an unsatisfactory answer for you, but it's the truth. I feel in these scenarios that talk can sometimes be cheap and you just gotta get to letting them feel out the experience for themselves, while you try to radiate as positive vibes as possible for them.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

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#8 Posted : 3/31/2011 4:59:19 AM

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I agree with gobalswg, It just varies from person to person. The last two people I introduced it to actually asked me what I knew about it, being the connoisseur of drugs that I am, and they were pleasantly surprised that I not only knew a great deal about it but could provide them with an experience.

Just to entertain the idea though, here is a hypothetical conversation I would have with a friend I wanted to share the experience with...


A) Have you ever heard of DMT?

B) No, what is it?

A) Well, you know about or have heard about different psychedelics/hallucinogens right?

B) Yeah, like shrooms or LSD?

A) Pretty much, but this one is a lot different. Sure they all have they're similarities and differences, but THIS! one is pretty much on a whole new level.

B) How so?

A) Well... First of all, its in your body right now. And its found in a lot a various different plants as well, If we go outside I can probably find one right now.

B) So it's everywhere?

A) To say the least, yeah. Some people even theorize that its what makes us dream, and that its released during death, which is what leads to near death experiences being so profound. But that's just a theory which may or may not be true.

The experience itself varies from person to person, but almost everyone agrees that its like being thrown into a whole 'nother dimension. Sometimes its just some crazy visuals, other times you will meet entities.

B) Wait, like ghosts?

A) More like aliens. Since your in another dimension, it's more like your visiting a whole new world. And the "people" their are like, "hey whats up, someone new". The ones I've met have all been friendly, and it's like they want to show you everything they can before you leave.

B) Are there non-friendly entities as well?

A) Yeah, but like all other psychedelics, its all about your mindset. Your emotions control whats going on more than anything else, if you project love and happiness they will disappear. Good always triumphs over evil, and they can't stand it, so they just leave.

B) How many times have you ever tried it?

A) A few times.

B) How was it? What did you experience?

A) I could write a whole book on just one of my experiences, there is just SO much stuff that you see and feel. Like I said earlier, its comparable to being in a whole new world.

**Insert experience(s)**

B) Wow, that's just crazy.

A) No it's beyond crazy, I was left speechless after the first time I tried it. It literally took me a few hours until I was able to describe what had happened to me, and about 2 days until I was able to fully articulate what I experienced.

B) So, it's so profound you don't even realize what just happened to you?

A) No, you realize it. It's just, sorta like a dream. So much happens in a short amount of time, sometimes you just come out of it saying "What the F**k just happened". And you need time to gather your thoughts and process it.

B) So how long are you tripping for?

A) Most of the time it only lasts about 10-20 minutes, there is some minor after affects as its wearing off. But your completely sober again in an hour.

B) That's nuts. Why haven't I heard about this before, is it something new?

A) No, its been known about for a long time, longer than LSD if my memory serves me correctly.

B) So why isn't it as popular as LSD or shrooms?

A) It's sorta like an underground thing. We like to keep it hush-hush so it doesn't get all the negative publicity that the other psychedelics have. That and most people would agree that its just so intense that its not a recreation thing you would go do with your friends at the local park. This is something that you have to prepare for, be ready to handle, and respect to its fullest.

B) So its not like sitting at a party and passing around a joint or a sheet of blotter?

A) Some parties, maybe. But pretty much no.

B) Is it dangerous?

A) I would say running with scissors or swimming in the ocean is more dangerous. Remember it's in your body right now, so its nothing your body doesn't already know about. But when you get enough of it into your system, your mind can go places and see things you wouldn't even imagine in your wildest dreams, well maybe you could dream something crazier, but I doubt it.

B) Is it legal?

A) Like most everything that is fun and can provide you with a broader understanding of the world, No.

B) Broader understanding of the world?

A) Yeah, "The Man" made it illegal because it opens your mind. It frees you from the prison cell that is your current way of thinking. It tears down the barriers of what you've been taught your entire life. It makes you realize that there is more out there, and that what we know is nothing compared to what is.

B) What is?

A) Life man, Life.

B) So DMT shows you life?

A) And possibly whats beyond what we currently understand as life. I think it is what makes life, well life. Some even dare to call it "The god molecule" or "The Spirit Molecule".

B) Do you have any of this "DMT"?

A) Oh yeah, and I would love to share it with you, but only if your feel your ready.


I hope you enjoyed this hypothetical conversation with Myself and Me. Feel free to comment on it, or if you would change/add anything. This took me a while to write, and probably needs the touch of another person well versed in this area to make it more complete.
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#9 Posted : 3/31/2011 5:19:23 AM

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#10 Posted : 3/31/2011 5:28:17 AM

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Thank goodness! Now that a first complete conversation example has been posted, I no longer need to post on this thread.
From this point forward, without out any further comments (or even smiley faces) from me, this thread will blossom beautifully.
We can simply read the next 100 or 1000 complete conversation examples that will be posted here, and use them synergistically.
 
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#11 Posted : 3/31/2011 2:43:27 PM

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#12 Posted : 3/31/2011 3:50:47 PM

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ME: Check out this website.

guy: what?

Me: this one

guy: oh

Me: yeah

guy: I've pm'd some people

Me: yeah I know, stop pming people stupid poems

guy: what?

Me: you know what the hell I'm talking about

guy: can I smoke DMT?

Me: no.

guy: No, you're using the wrong words! That's not the right way to do it!

Me: didn't you read Ya's warning...now Ya might get upset..no spice for you!


At least that's how I would handle it.
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#13 Posted : 4/2/2011 12:16:35 AM

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All kidding aside, what I actually tell people who tell me they would like to be introduced the molecule is to get online search it up on google, (and these days) to watch the documentary, and read the FAQ and health and safety sections here at the nexus forums...

Then come back and tell me all about the molecule. Once I am satisfied that they have done their homework, if they were willing to do the work and are still interested after doing it, then a changa pipe may appear in their near future when the set and setting are appropriate.

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#14 Posted : 4/2/2011 8:36:39 AM

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#15 Posted : 4/5/2011 5:42:49 PM

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I have a hard time with this topic, as I haven't been very successful at this in the past. My partner is completely disinterested in trying the spice, even after seeing all that it has done for me.

All the successes, just the letters had to be said.
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#16 Posted : 4/5/2011 7:10:04 PM

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simple and too the point is best without putting suggestions into someones head about what to expect in terms of details.
stay away from established belief systems.


Telling the person how long it lasts is most important and actually saved a friend from completely losing it altogethor.

Its tricky to set it up because there is nothing to compare it too.

once a person decides whether or not to do it

Personally i would focus on teaching the person how to handle it when it comes on.
talk about breathing and not to panic.

letting the person know you;ll be right there beside them .

ensuring an absolutely supreme setting for the event. attention to detail

low doses at first i don;t recommend giving someone whos never tried it a big dose. trust me it can get very dark .















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#17 Posted : 4/5/2011 9:05:45 PM

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