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kinkyking
#1 Posted : 3/13/2011 8:23:07 AM

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Scouting chatrooms and looking for the so called sick person and extracting their words has been one of my spare time hobbies recently. Just encountered this piece and saw the DMT fumes circling it, thought it might be interesting for some of you as well, so decided to post it.

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[12Mar11 20:58:05][blind] so sick of the fuckn tv
[12Mar11 21:06:12][blind] why do we live in a society where the stupidest make decisions for everyone else?
[12Mar11 21:06:36][blind] this is fuckn bizzarro world
[12Mar11 21:06:44][blind] there must be a real world out there
[12Mar11 21:06:55][blind] and this is it's mirror image
[12Mar11 21:07:02][blind] EVERYTHING IS FUCKIN BACKWARDS HERE!
[12Mar11 21:10:19][CFH] trust me,I know what you're talking about.I used to work for walmart
[12Mar11 21:12:02][CFH] a multi-billion dollar corp.that wouldn't know their ass from a hole in the ground
[12Mar11 21:16:09][CFH] and of course there's our government...............................................
[12Mar11 21:17:05][blind] this is actually quite 'natural'
[12Mar11 21:17:25][blind] when trekking in the wilderness, the pace is always set by the children and old people
[12Mar11 21:17:44][blind] this essentially means that as a community, we are only as smart as the stupidest individual
[12Mar11 21:18:53][blind] what this means to me is that human society is un-natural and not geared for the evolution of the species at all
[12Mar11 21:19:06][blind] on the contrary, it is a means of degeneration
[12Mar11 21:25:45][blind] this is really a big flaw with democracy
[12Mar11 21:26:15][blind] why should a moron get a say on something that is going to affect everyone?
[12Mar11 21:26:34][blind] why should a million morons get a say on anything at all?
[12Mar11 21:27:06][blind] their stupidity makes them easy to sway
[12Mar11 21:27:25][blind] and their 'vote' is always manipulated for the good of some corporation
[12Mar11 21:28:09][blind] we reached this level of advancement through thousands of years of monarchies
[12Mar11 21:28:41][blind] dictatorships essentially, where one king chooses what's best for his people
[12Mar11 21:29:21][blind] now we're fucking it all up by letting retards voice their opinions
[12Mar11 21:29:30][blind] and it'd be ok if it was just a matter of free speech
[12Mar11 21:29:50][blind] but fuckn hell they're making all the decisions!
[12Mar11 21:30:45][blind] i mean who ever consented to having an american oil company destroy billions of acres of the amazon forest just so the US wouldn't have to tap it's domestic reserves?!
[12Mar11 21:33:45][blind] probably some ignorant jackass from shitsville, georgia
[12Mar11 21:35:34][blind] Vote yes to destroying the earth now and pay less for gas for a few months.
[12Mar11 21:37:02][blind] then there's the ads on tv subliminally telling us "BUY A BIG CAR! BE A BIG MAN!"
[12Mar11 21:38:22][blind] or "WE HAD TO FIGHT NATURE TO SURVIVE. NOW IT'S NATURE'S TURN."
[12Mar11 21:39:22][blind] and this is what's on the news..
[12Mar11 21:39:30][blind] "Oksana Grigorieva Will Sue Mel Gibson"
[12Mar11 21:39:57][blind] increasing mass awareness MY ASS
[12Mar11 21:40:09][blind] the news is a load of shit
[12Mar11 21:40:26][blind] FUCK
[12Mar11 21:41:46][blind] and if you complain you're a fuckin radical muslim who hates freedom and hates america
[12Mar11 21:41:57][blind] FUCK YOU
[12Mar11 21:42:22][blind] it really doesn't take a genius to figure out what a fuckin shithole we're living in
[12Mar11 21:43:11][blind] the only freedom we have is to be as stupid as we can possibly be.
[12Mar11 22:00:56][epigon78] holy shit
[12Mar11 22:01:03][epigon78] is this a monologue?
[12Mar11 22:01:08][epigon78] ;-)
[12Mar11 23:12:00][blind] yep, monologue
[12Mar11 23:12:30][blind] i find it difficult to engage people in meaningful dialog so i have to do it on my own
[12Mar11 23:12:33][blind] Sad
[12Mar11 23:15:03][blind] the best and brightest minds of our day are either strict materialists or hardcore religious fanatics
[12Mar11 23:15:14][blind] idiots either way
* blind is an arrogant shithead
[12Mar11 23:15:39][blind] don't take me too seriously
[12Mar11 23:18:16][epigon78] I don't know if I can agree with this strict dualism
[12Mar11 23:18:59][epigon78] first of all you should precise what you mean by best and brightest
[12Mar11 23:21:59][epigon78] if "to be good" and "bright" means to know how to optimally operationalize your own ressources in a capitalistic/economic context then you should oversee your hypothesis because there are more ways of living than just the classic relihious way or the modern capitalistic way
[12Mar11 23:22:06][epigon78] so-called "modern"
[12Mar11 23:22:23][epigon78] brb
[12Mar11 23:22:49][blind] i'm gonna tell you about something i've figured out in my life time
[12Mar11 23:23:21][blind] this reality we live in is like a dream
[12Mar11 23:24:02][blind] ask yourself this: how can you tell if you are dreaming right now?
[12Mar11 23:24:24][blind] you can't tell until you wake up.
[12Mar11 23:25:19][blind] we are actually in another realm of awareness right now and we are sleeping there
[12Mar11 23:25:59][blind] it's a totally different form of awareness
[12Mar11 23:26:20][blind] it's a state in which you don't perceive time or space at all
[12Mar11 23:26:50][blind] in that state of being everything exists right here right now and you are connected to everything directly
[12Mar11 23:27:36][blind] in fact, the very notion of "living a life" is totally meaningless there
[12Mar11 23:28:05][blind] but this is nothing, a lot of people have figured this out these days
[12Mar11 23:28:45][blind] but what would really blow the mind is that that other world is also like a dream
[12Mar11 23:29:00][blind] it is a dream being dreamt by another being in yet another world
[12Mar11 23:29:25][blind] apparently there's seven levels like this
[12Mar11 23:29:40][blind] each of them is like an actual level of existence
[12Mar11 23:30:12][blind] it's extremely complex and utterly strange
[12Mar11 23:30:54][blind] this is just speculation on my part but i think we are meant to be reaching those higher levels in this lifetime
[12Mar11 23:31:08][blind] think of it this way
[12Mar11 23:32:00][blind] think of a chicken's egg, it's got the yolk and whites inside a shell
[12Mar11 23:32:50][blind] if the egg receives the right stimuli from the outside and is of proper composition inside it'll hatch into a little bird
[12Mar11 23:33:06][blind] I think we are that egg now
[12Mar11 23:33:08][epigon78] well DesCartes wrote a book on this subject ,the "Meditationes de prima philosophia"
[12Mar11 23:33:20][epigon78] and he concluded with the famous phrase "Cogito ergo sum"
[12Mar11 23:33:26][blind] i've read descartes
[12Mar11 23:33:31][blind] it's all just masturbation
[12Mar11 23:33:35][blind] all talk
[12Mar11 23:33:51][epigon78] because even if you dream you can't deny that your mind exists and is perceptive
[12Mar11 23:33:59][epigon78] nah it's quite interesting
[12Mar11 23:34:01][blind] it's obvious descartes had never experienced anything beyond his own mind
[12Mar11 23:34:19][blind] there are other worlds that we can perceive without our mind or our senses
[12Mar11 23:34:29][blind] we have other means of awareness at our disposal
[12Mar11 23:35:06][epigon78] damn gotta leave for 30 mins now,I'll be back and we'll discuss a lil more
[12Mar11 23:35:37][blind] i think buddhists and shamans are the ones who deal with this particular kind of knowledge
[12Mar11 23:35:55][epigon78] I know what you mean but even if you take LSD or whatever can change your awareness and perception,you still do perceive
[12Mar11 23:36:09][blind] no LSD is nothing
[12Mar11 23:36:20][blind] have you ever vaporized DMT?
[12Mar11 23:36:21][epigon78] so what do you mean?
[12Mar11 23:36:32][epigon78] oh I heard about it
[12Mar11 23:36:51][epigon78] but never tried it,seems too much hardcore to me
[12Mar11 23:37:03][epigon78] call me a wuzz but I don't wanna try that
[12Mar11 23:37:15][blind] you know you can't really even call it a drug
[12Mar11 23:37:17][epigon78] I stick with weed or shrooms sometimes
[12Mar11 23:37:25][blind] it's not recreational
[12Mar11 23:37:29][blind] it's not even fun
[12Mar11 23:37:32][epigon78] ah k
[12Mar11 23:37:38][blind] it takes you out of yourself, literally
[12Mar11 23:37:39][epigon78] yeah that's what I heard
[12Mar11 23:37:47][epigon78] they called it a hell of a trip
[12Mar11 23:37:48][blind] shows you things that make you shit in your boots
[12Mar11 23:38:06][epigon78] hehe
[12Mar11 23:38:15][epigon78] k but as I said,I'll be back soon
[12Mar11 23:38:31][blind] sure man
[12Mar11 23:39:52][blind] can't stop my monologue for you though..
[12Mar11 23:39:55][blind] so anyway
[12Mar11 23:40:31][blind] materialism is a trap because it makes us think that the physical world is all that exists
[12Mar11 23:41:26][blind] religion is crap because it makes us have faith that there is another world beyond the physical one, but there's no way for us to know it directly so they'll tell us about it
[12Mar11 23:42:00][blind] well, this is obviously a scam
[12Mar11 23:42:43][blind] you telling me there's this other world with a god that's gonna morally judge my actions in some unknowable after-life?
[12Mar11 23:42:54][blind] come on! get the fuck outta here!
[12Mar11 23:43:33][blind] and that's the thing of it, they have us believe that the other world or the after-life is something that can only be attained after death
[12Mar11 23:43:43][blind] so it's existence can't even be proven
[12Mar11 23:44:01][blind] this is obviously garbage
[12Mar11 23:44:06][blind] so what choice do we have?
[12Mar11 23:45:26][blind] it seems we as a species are in quite a pickle.
[12Mar11 23:46:56][blind] i mean we're all gonna die
[12Mar11 23:47:21][blind] might be tomorrow, might be in 10 years -- same thing
[12Mar11 23:47:41][blind] this life we have is going to be taken away one day without warning
[12Mar11 23:48:49][blind] ^^^this is all that is for sure.
[12Mar11 23:56:56][blind] i think what we need to be asking is why are psychedelic drugs illegal and severely demonized?
[12Mar11 23:58:20][blind] i know for a fact that the majority of people are completely ignorant about psychedelics
[12Mar11 23:58:28][blind] they have no first hand experience
[12Mar11 23:59:22][blind] so the fate of these substances is left in the hand of the stupid and ignorant idiot
[12Mar11 23:59:48][blind] then they bombard us constantly with "JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS."
[12Mar11 23:59:58][blind] yeah, just say no -- don't ask questions.
[13Mar11 00:00:14][blind] don't experience it, that's a crime
[13Mar11 00:00:37][blind] but alcohol's fine
[13Mar11 00:00:48][blind] drink until you pass out
[13Mar11 00:01:05][blind] DRINK 'TIL YA CAN'T THINK!
[13Mar11 00:01:15][blind] drink and drive!
[13Mar11 00:01:54][blind] we don't give a fuck if it's alcohol, cause that makes you stupid Smile Smile Smile
[13Mar11 00:02:06][blind] stupid is good Smile Smile Smile
[13Mar11 00:02:16][blind] you wanna be stupid so we can get rich Smile Smile Smile
[13Mar11 00:02:30][blind] and we'll protect you from the evil psychoactive plants Smile Smile Smile
[13Mar11 00:02:51][blind] well, that's real great
[13Mar11 00:03:01][blind] these people are so nice!
[13Mar11 00:03:13][blind] and they definitely sound like they have my best interest at heart
[13Mar11 00:06:51][blind] but you know what.. i just don't believe that anyone other than myself can make decisions for me
[13Mar11 00:07:41][blind] so why don't i decide what PLANTS _I_ choose to consume
[13Mar11 00:08:56][blind] but you don't have any real freedom Smile Smile Smile
[13Mar11 00:09:59][blind] we are already making choices for you based on what the most retarded idiot wants Smile Smile Smile
[13Mar11 00:10:52][blind] (it's no more mr. nice guy at this point)
[13Mar11 00:11:10][blind] they'll actually stick you in a fuckin cell for smoking a plant
[13Mar11 00:11:42][blind] this is my best interest?!
[13Mar11 00:14:38][blind] it's a really brutal way to keep people in the dark about such a profound subject..
[13Mar11 00:15:06][blind] they are literally trying to keep us from knowing any better
[13Mar11 00:15:37][blind] they've even got their "doctors" convinced that these drugs cause hallucinations or delusions
[13Mar11 00:16:17][blind] of course the doctors have never experienced it themselves, so "if it's in the book, it must be true."
[13Mar11 00:16:36][blind] cause you know that _is_ how doctors are trained in our universities; by reading books.
[13Mar11 00:17:03][blind] yep, don't do drugs or you'll go crazy
[13Mar11 00:17:21][blind] is there anything we fear more than going crazy?
[13Mar11 00:17:33][blind] i don't think we're even afraid of death that much!
[13Mar11 00:17:54][blind] but drugs will also kill you
[13Mar11 00:18:16][blind] so they're just about the worst thing that exists
[13Mar11 00:18:36][blind] "IF YOU WANNA GO CRAZY OR DIE: DO DRUGS"
[13Mar11 00:26:01][blind] just think of it this way
[13Mar11 00:26:35][blind] there is something out there that our physical body turns into sensory data
[13Mar11 00:26:48][blind] then our mind interprets that sensory data
[13Mar11 00:27:04][blind] we live our whole lives two steps away from the real deal
[13Mar11 00:28:21][blind] the people of our time fall into three distinct categories according to themselves
[13Mar11 00:28:36][blind] they are either atheists, agnostics or believers.
[13Mar11 00:29:28][blind] essentially, the atheists are the ones who claim that they do not BELIEVE in anything beyond material existence
[13Mar11 00:30:04][blind] the agnostics BELIEVE that there is no way to know for sure if there is anything beyond material existence
[13Mar11 00:30:59][blind] and the believers BELIEVE on sheer faith that there is indeed something beyond this material plane of existence
[13Mar11 00:31:19][blind] all three are idiots
[13Mar11 00:31:33][blind] it makes no difference what you believe
[13Mar11 00:32:57][blind] of course there is something beyond this physical world -- only an idiot would doubt this -- the physical world is just an interpretation of sensory data from an organism.
[13Mar11 00:33:30][blind] but what actually counts is to corroborate this personally
[13Mar11 00:34:07][blind] you need to find out what's out there, beyond your senses and your mind
 

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Steely
#2 Posted : 3/13/2011 10:19:50 PM

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So, what chat room was this?

The comments made seem very insulting with complete disregard for other perspectives on life, and hypocritical to say the least. I understand the frustration most of us have these days over common sense and its usage, or lack there of when it comes to basic human rights, but this rant came across as being more ignorant than agreeable to me.

No one persons outlook on life is ever sensible if it means bashing and insulting everyone else's.
Do not listen to anything, "Steely" says. He is a made up character that his owner likes to role play with. His owner is very delusional and everything he says is completely untrue and ridiculous.
Hate is the choice of a clouded mind.
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#3 Posted : 3/13/2011 10:30:25 PM

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#4 Posted : 3/14/2011 2:46:15 AM
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blind did seem to voice some quite valid realizations here, but he clearly is a very embittered personality. Needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
I am awake in a dream called reality.
 
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#5 Posted : 3/14/2011 5:27:51 AM

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why should a moron get a say on something that is going to affect everyone?


lol, that was funny. Pretty entertaining post.
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#6 Posted : 3/29/2011 10:14:30 PM
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I enjoyed it greatly. I don't mind the bitterness of his/her comments; It's obviously a rant. An improvised expression of frustration and insight.
Don't mind Blind's ignorance; he/she's only Human. Are you guys never frustrated with the stupidity of our Rulers and the masses of people that follow them?

Blind actually sais, in his ranting, not to take him/her too serious. I actually had a real good laugh several times reading this chatlog.
Blind's right and spoton about pretty much everything. I think it indeed is a little unbalanced; He fails to mention that he is non-the-wiser.

The real art is to not only recognise Ignorance in others, but also in yourself.
Blind is very harsh and critical about others ( with which I can totally agree ), but would do good being equally harsh and critical of him/herself.

I myself have the same dilemma as Blind: I try to be as patient, forgiving and respectfull with people, but how can you respectfully, patiently and forgivingly respond to people if they are so unforgivably stupid as to want to ban and irradicate several 1000nds of plant species because they contain DMT, Mescaline and similair compounds?

These people, trying to push through these laws in Australia and soon everywhere else, I cannot see in any other light than Dangeriously Insane Fools.
How could you possibly be patient and respect these peoples views, when their views clearly come from the perspective of having one's head up one's ass?
And how could you possibly respect these people's views when they're clearly bent on doing alot of harm to alot of plants and human beings? I only respect people's views if they don't evolve around dominating & oppressing others. And if they're views also include irradicating 1000nds of plant species I tend to dispise their views, leave alone respect them.

I'm sure the most patient, forgiving and respectfull people amongst us nexians will become as frustrated and cynical as blind when them blockheads start actively burning down Mescaline containing cacti, Mimosa, Acacia and Brugmansia trees both Cultivated and Wildgrowing.

How patient, forgiving and respectfull will you remain once innocent Botanists, both Entheogenic and regulair, start getting actively raided and heavily punished for growing some plants?

 
 
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