Its not soluble in water as i have tried to with a little bit in a spoon, added a small amount of d\water and introduced some some heat which only made the spice gooey and separate from the water like an oil.

I'm going to ignore the somewhat sketchy nature of the opening of your post and simply request that you extract your own in the future...

May I ask why you want to start your dmt exploration with IV administration? Why not try vaporization first?

So i could wash the fit and replace the cap place it down before the initial effects took hold.

What endlessness said

ALSO!!!!!

THE ONLY FORM OF DMT THAT IS FDA-APPROVED FOR IV ADMINISTRATION IS DMT-FUMARATE

...I have found that the less time between the first of the substance hitting your brain and the last is important if you want the full effect. The shorter of course if going for the full spectrum of the experience and longer. If you want a softer exp, easing into its effects you might say. Also I want to explore the time it lasts to smoking it, because i have had a few substance injected, i saw that there is always a big difference between the time it lasts and the quality! Besides from my past experiences its clear that my visual response is so great that it becomes difficult to administer myself by vaporizing it.
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When compared to effective rapid vaporization, IV administration has no advantages and numerous disadvantages.

#15 THE ENTHEOGEN REVIEW , POB 19820, SA CRAMENTO , CA 95819-0820, USA
# VOL UME VIIII, NUMBER 1 SPRING / SUMMER 2000
by LION (the artist formerly known as TOAD)

The Entheogen Review neither encourages nor discourages the use of needles—we are aware that this is a personal choice. Nevertheless, there is clearly a stigma attached to the use of needles, even in the minds of those who take illicit drugs via other routes. Some of the reasons for this stigma may be: 1) IV (or IM) use of drugs is a route of administration that can provide a quicker method of action (a “rush”) and shorter effects, which may be more likely to lead to drug addiction; 2) The use of needles for illicit drug administration is primarily associated with heroin, and the negative popular image of “junkies” may present a conscious or unconscious idea in the user’s mind that they have “crossed a line” with their drug use that could lead to a greater likelihood of becoming psychologically addicted; 3) Generally speaking, those drugs used illicitly via injection (cocaine, heroin, ketamine, methamphetamine) seem to actually have a greater likelihood of physical addiction.

The following information should be seen for what it is—the presentation of a method that allows for harm reduction for those people who chose on their own to use needles. Using pure compounds and following correct sterile procedures are paramount to protecting the health of the drug user. Needles are used as a safe and effective method of drug administration in hospitals worldwide. Our hope is that through education, the days of users sucking up toilet-water into a syringe to get their fix might be numbered.

To reduce risk of disease transmission, IV or IM drug users should never share their needles, their works, or a communal pool of “drug water.” Those who feel compelled to re-use needles, need to be instructed on proper disinfection methods: first draw up clean water completely, to remove any excess blood, shake at least 30 seconds to break up blood clots, flush and repeat two more times, dumping the water each time. Then repeat this same procedure three times using pure bleach, and then three more times using pure water again. The plunger must then be removed from the syringe and washed with clean water. More safety information related to proper injection procedures can be found at www.cures-notwars.org/junkie/inject.html WE STRONGLY DISCOURAGE THE REPEATED USE OF NEEDLES OR SHARING NEEDLES, EVEN IF PROPERLY CLEANED.

Sterile, single-use needles (such as those used by diabetics) should not be difficult to come by; they are available in some states over-the-counter, often can be had from veterinary or farm/ranch supply houses, and also by mail order from some companies. As a last resort, those in the unenlightened USA might make a quick trip across the border to pick some up in México, if simple possession of needles is not a crime in the state they plan to re-enter.


This article is intended to educate drug experimenters on the logistics and technique used to prepare a safe, sterile drug solution that is suitable for intramuscular (IM) or intravenous (IV) injection. First and foremost the purity of the drug is paramount. It is extremely important that you know the exact purity of the material you intend to prepare, and preferably have a certificate of analysis or other documentation which guarantees the quality of the compound is greater than 99.8% pure. Hearing about people injecting street-quality materials such as black tar heroin or bathtub methamphetamine
sends shivers down my spine. The traditional spoon cooking method and other techniques such as dry packing are dubious at best. The possible negative consequences from injecting impure or incompletely dissolved drug materials are very serious. Such practices can cause severe irreparable
damage to the heart, veins and arteries, and lungs, not to mention the many other possible complications. It’s also important to have the correct form of the drug that is water soluble and has a relatively balanced pH. The HCl (and other salt) forms of the tryptamines and phenethylamines are typically suitable for injection with a few exceptions. DMT is usually not seen in its salt form on the illicit market since it’s usually smoked. If one had a pure free-base material it would be relatively easy to make a HCl or citrate salt solution for injection, although most of the free-base materials I’ve seen were not pure enough for this purpose. RICK STRASSMAN used the fumarate salt form for his intravenous DMT studies, and ALEXANDER SHULGIN mentions several other salts of DMT such as oxalate and picrate in TIHKAL. If there is any doubt in your mind as to whether your material is pure and in the suitable form for injection then please don’t do it.

The following list of materials is what you will need to make a 30 ml bottle of prepared drug solution from which you can draw upon at your leisure. These items may be procured at a medical supply house and/or a scientific lab supply company. Some of these companies require you to set up a formal business account while others are relatively easy to purchase from as an individual with a credit card. Use common sense and a professional manner when dealing with these companies and it’s usually a “no questions asked” transaction.

-Sterile syringe (a large 50 cc size is helpful for this process) and several
sterile needles.
-30 ml bottle of bacteriostatic 0.9% sodium chloride (saline) solution suitable
for injection.
-Sterile 0.2 µm micro pore filter (25 mm diameter cellulose acetate
membrane, or glass filter membrane).
-Small glass bottle with cap that will hold 30 ml of liquid.
-Rubbing alcohol and cotton ball.
-Drug of choice.

Boil the glass bottle and cap/rubber stopper for 5–10 minutes to clean and disinfect it, then allow to dry. Now its time to determine your target concentration and weigh out the drug material. Say that you have 750 mg of N,N-dipropyltryptamine HCl and you want to make your injection solution 25 mg per ml. Your total weight of 750 mg is divided by 25 mg which equals 30 ml of liquid. You can also do the math backwards starting with the number of ml and mg/ml and multiplying that to find the total weight of drug material needed. 25 mg/ml is the proper ratio for DPT, since making it more concentrated will cause those pesky crystals to come right back out of solution.

Put your 750 mg of DPT HCl in the empty glass bottle. Clean the rubber stopper on the sterile saline solution bottle with rubbing alcohol using the cotton ball. Take your sterile syringe and needle and draw out the 30 ml of the saline solution and place it in the glass bottle. You may need to allow some air back into the sodium chloride bottle to equalize the pressure as you go. Save the empty sterile sodium chloride bottle with rubber membrane intact for putting the completed sterilized solution back in.

Next put the cap or rubber stopper on the glass bottle and shake vigorously until all of the drug material goes into solution. If the material is not dissolving you may gently heat the glass bottle by applying a hot tap water bath on the outside of the bottle. Be careful of building pressure from the heat in your glass bottle, it may cause the cap to pop off and spray your precious elixir all over. Sometimes materials can be very difficult to get into solution, but once you get them in they typically stay in. After the drug has fully dissolved you are now ready filter and sterilize the solution with the filter device. The micron filter will effectively eliminate all bacteria, viruses, and undissolved solids from the solution.

Draw up and fill the syringe with drug solution from the glass bottle and remove the needle. In place of the needle attach the sterile 0.2 µm micro pore filter housing with a twisting motion. It fits into the Luer lock just like a needle. Attach a new sterile needle to the outlet nipple of the micro pore filter. With the outlet and needle pointed upward, gradually apply thumb pressure to the syringe to initiate flow. Continue thumb pressure until all the air in the device is displaced with liquid. Once liquid starts to exit the needle, stop applying pressure and insert the needle into the top of the empty sodium chloride bottle. Now facing the needle downward,
apply continuous pressure and fill the bottle with drug solution. You may need to relieve the air pressure build up in the sodium chloride bottle while you are refilling it. This can be accomplished by inserting a sterile needle into the stopper to serve as a release valve. You will need to repeat the filtering process several times if your syringe holds less than 30ml. Be sure to remove the sterile needle and filter housing before attempting to draw up more unsterile solution from the glass bottle. Attach the old needle (unsterile) that you used the first time when drawing up the unsterile solution from the glass bottle, or just draw it up without a needle. Reattach the sterile needle and filter housing and finish filling the sterile saline bottle. If the filter flow becomes too slow or the resistance excessive then change the filter. Be sure to properly label your new bottle with the name of the material
and the correct concentration per ml.

I don't know if i would say that exactly, have you ever used the IV or IM ROA?

Advantages could very well include a lower dosage, a longer experience if done IM without the need for MAOI's, a cleaner experience - no lung discomfort. I have yet to do IV or IM so cannot attest to the subjective advantages of the experience itself (there are plenty of experiences online and in Strassman's book). IM administration seems particularly interesting due to the length of the experience and the more gentle come-up.

Disadvantages would include the need for a very very pure product, which is not hard to achieve with the fumarate salt if you have done your research. Here is a page over at the nook that goes over how to clean fumarates, if you plan to IV or IM I suggest doing this tek multiple times on the same material, even if it looks to be completely white. Also disadvantages clearly include stigmas associated with needles, the need to know how to inject properly if you have never done so before, and a general need to be more well prepared and meticulous about your methods.

IV and IM administration of drugs is actually a very safe method of administration if it is done with care.