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Ellis D'Empty
#1 Posted : 2/13/2011 4:31:02 PM

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Well, it was awhile before I delved into the spice again... I met a cool guy around my parts who also extracts and so we made a thing to journey together.

We decided to smoke out of joints, as I cannot smoke the sacred herbs, and we rolled them very nice. I'm not sure of the dosage, but it was Changa JimJam, Spearmint Enhanced Leaf, Calea, and another herb which escapes my mind at this moment... We prepared for one great adventure.

It started off great, very comfortable atmosphere, high dose, and I noticed the difference in the JimJam compared to my N,N, as well as the Caapi, which it was infused with. It tasted like pure bliss, heaven all rolled into a paper. After smoking it down a bit, I noticed that the Entities seems to realllly not like fire. It was almost as if they would shy away from the tip whilst being hit. The journey was a success, very beautiful, very friendly as well. Probably my favorite as of yet.

A little bit later, after recollecting our thoughts on what had just transpired, we decided to roll another one. Not as much Calea, but more Changa/Enhanced Leaf. This adventure started out weird, as he wanted to try with the light on, and as soon as I hit it and started feeling the effects, I quick jumped up and shut it off. Denoting "The spirits hate light. As much as I felt weird, nothing else was said, and we just laughed it off sort of and continued down the road.

Now, the last trip was a mind blowing experience, one which only "Life, Wow, Beautiful, Magnificent" can purely describe, and not even that gives it the full effect. This trip, was very intuitive... I have a fiance which is in the UK at the moment, and I'm trying to bring her over here... This was the main point of reference in my mind during this trip. I saw my life, little ol' me, almost.... singled out, in this giant world. I seen my day to day life, going about the way I would normally go about... and then I seen her, way on the other side.... 5000 miles away. Living her life, doing her day to day thing, with the look on her face of utter defeat... I got the strongest sensation of personal failure at this moment... Can I do this? Will this work? Will it be enough? Are we truly meant to be?
These thoughts flooded my mind, like a plague... I wanted to just stop the trip, and I'm not one for having a bad trip... but then... almost as if the future was splayed out before me... A thought comes into my head, "How is it that we've found each other, in this wide, wide world? Then I seen it, utter and pure bliss, we were together, the rest of the world didn't matter anymore. We we're finally together, living our lives out of a van, traveling the world... and then in a little cottage we created in the mountains... we had a child, I hunted food, and she grew food. We were together, at last....

And then I came to.


We talked a bit about what we saw, and at the time I could only make out such... insignificant? portions. Anyways, we tried to venture again, this time via a bong, the first trip was great (I still don't recollect that all to well at this time) and the second time (out of the bong) I ended up coughing, and then it was quits for me.

But this is not purely what I want to describe... This was, two days ago. Last night, I had the most awkward 'dreams'. I felt.... "wrong". I felt like I was on something, the closest thign that came to my mind was and still is 'harmalas' I mean, I even remember taking something, spice or something... I would wake up, and just not feel "right". Like almost like everyone pain in the world, was channeling through me. It wasn't "bad" or "really hurtful" it was just "weird"... Now I've woken up, my whole body is sore, I just want to lay in bed all day and rest... My throat is very sore, when I cough it hurts like fire. It's just weird, because the night after the trips, I was perfect, I was happy, feeling great, and in "heaven". And now.... well, I'm in "hell".


Well thanks for reading everyone, was wondering perhaps if anyone has felt these same effects awhile after journeying?
01:13:08 ‹Ellis DEmpty› I met the people living in my head... I disturbed them while they were sitting down at the table.... They were as shocked as I was!

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#2 Posted : 2/13/2011 7:33:43 PM

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It's probably just an unrelated illness / common cold. The changa has long left your system.

Nice report though, thanks!
 
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#3 Posted : 2/13/2011 8:38:28 PM

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Yea Sad I got the flu :-/ blehhh
01:13:08 ‹Ellis DEmpty› I met the people living in my head... I disturbed them while they were sitting down at the table.... They were as shocked as I was!

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#4 Posted : 2/16/2011 3:46:59 AM

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There are a handful of users here who seem to suffer from flu like systems following changa sessions. I believe they narrowed down the source to the IPA used in the infusion process, although they remain largely unsure why this happens to certain people, as others who partook in the same amount of the same changa at the same time would not get sick while a select few would seem to get it nearly every time. If you use acetone instead of IPA in the future, you should be able to avoid the flu-ish aftermath. As for the trip you described with your fiance, it was very moving and sounds fascinating. A question I have for you is: when you were tripping and you saw your fiance, did she look more or less like your fiance would normally look, or was it extremely fractal and patterned representation of her?
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#5 Posted : 3/3/2011 9:18:57 PM

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Thanks for the post, nice report! You don't like to smoke DMT in the light, as many people I've heard. I usually smoke in the dark too, but the few times I smoked outside in the daytime was also very blissful. Different, yes, but very positive. Do you think the spirits don't like light in general, or just artificial light?
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#6 Posted : 3/3/2011 10:03:21 PM

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gobalswg wrote:
There are a handful of users here who seem to suffer from flu like systems following changa sessions. I believe they narrowed down the source to the IPA used in the infusion process, although they remain largely unsure why this happens to certain people, as others who partook in the same amount of the same changa at the same time would not get sick while a select few would seem to get it nearly every time. If you use acetone instead of IPA in the future, you should be able to avoid the flu-ish aftermath. As for the trip you described with your fiance, it was very moving and sounds fascinating. A question I have for you is: when you were tripping and you saw your fiance, did she look more or less like your fiance would normally look, or was it extremely fractal and patterned representation of her?


I infuse cannibinoids to leaf with IPA (which are generally smoked in much larger quantities then changa) and I have never heard of a person getting sick from it. The fact that it evaporates cleanly along with my personal experiences I have a very hard time believing it is to blame. It is not like acetone is any less toxic..
 
 
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