For me smoking DMT IS ALL ABOUT BREAKING THROUGH!

Thanks to everyone who posted. Thanks Gibran2 that was a pretty extreme experience you related.

I've decided that I do want to make the effort to break through now "at least once in my life". However, realistically I think I'll still have to get it done in one hit as Soulfood suggested otherwise as I'll just change my mind "half way to eternity" as usual.

It seems I have two options if I want to break-through on vaped spice.

1) Buy a GVG

2) Adjust my technique with the vaporstar and bong to allow me to get a full breakthrough dose in one hit.

Option 1) doesn't require much discussion at this point in time, in all likelihood it will work. It will just cost me 100 euro.

Option 2) has the advantage that I already have everything I need to try it immediately so that seems the most appealing option right now.

With that in mind does anyone have any experience trying to break-through in one hit using the vaporstar? Is it achievable, if so how did you do it?

What I'm thinking I might try is a technique of toking continuously on the vaporstar and getting as much vapor into the bong as possible, while getting as little in my lungs as possible. This method should, I imagine, build up a nice thick white a cloud of vapor in the bong. I'll be unable to completely avoid inhaling some vapor of course so, when I start to lose co-ordination from the spice I'll remove my finger from the carb-hole and take the full of the bong of vapor in one mighty/desperate lungful.

Does this sound like a likely plan? I hope so because if it doesn't blast me to hyperspace in one go I doubt I'll have the gumption or the co-ordination to repeat the procedure for a second hit.

P.S Will whether or not there is water in the bong have any baring on how long the vapor stays suspended in the air before condensing on the sides or dissolving into the water? I figure the longer the vapor stays suspended in the bong the longer I have to build up a dense cloud for the hit.

the technique you describe above works like a charm! Don't worry about getting vapor in your lungs before releasing the hole, you can really suck on it till the whole bong is full with thick vapor, release,suck and....byebye!!

This is how i managed to break true immediatly. I placed some spice on a bed of mint. I don't know the exact dose (didn't have a mg scale at the time), but i guess it must have been 20mg. It didn't look like much at all, that's why it caught me by surprise

I didn't even had the time to exhale completely...i think i even dosed a bit too much because i blacked out partially.

The experience is just hard to describe in words..i'll leave that to the more talented members here. Let's say I forgot all about my existence on earth, got teased by funny looking gnomes, merged with hyperspace, feared for my life and my loved ones, and then enjoyed the afterglow.

Breaking True.

JBArk

Thanks teotenakeltje. Looks like I've found the method I'll be trying next!

Had a lot of run ins with those ice cream parlor girls early on . I used to get one
That looked like a shiny plastic cartoon nurse . Never what I expected .
I don't see them anymore they've been replaced by a more complex series
Of light entities . Try predosing with caapi in some form. That will get you there .

I did pre-dose orally with 200mg Caapi extract an hour before. Next I'll be trying a 30mg sub-lingual dose a half-hour before vaping as was recommended earlier in the thread.



When I saw them they looked pretty complex, they were doing the kaleidoscopic thing so I couldn't quite tell if I was seeing 5 ice-cream parlor girl entities or 1 entity morphing between multiple dimensions, but they were all smiling and so was I, so it was all good.

It's fascinating to me how much similarity of experience there seems to be in the kinds of visions that different people report having.

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"Breaking through" is so worth it, even if its only once

Breaking True was my answer to the question, also!

JBArk

"oh oh ... I've done it now..!" ... that feeling of fear is all the ego can do... as God is sucking all of you into the lungs of heaven, in a giant breath ... God's inhale ... and you just wandered into it like a luminous speck... of dust ...

God sucks you in, all the way into everything that God made. ...

... and then God's exhale is what creates everything, breathing out, and atoms re-condenses back into being ... But I swear it was ALL MADE OF LOVE just before the atoms and objects formed...

... definately worth it ..!

My answer to the OPs question is a categorical yes.

The difference between sub-breakthru doses and those which get you there is marked and only by experiencing it will the true power of this compound be revealed.If you only dabble with the lower doses, I think a part of you will always wonder about the fuller experience.

Mindset is key and adopting an observers attitude during the mission is the way to go.Leave interpretation for later.

The OP asked-


YES!

I think any fear and anxiety associated with the (break threw/true) process stems form the old ego not wanting to let itself go. And maybe related to that or is created by your ego the fear of the unknown/fear of doing some psychological/physical harm. If you know what you are doing and are prepared though I believe only good things can come from this process.

But for the properly prepared/practiced voyageur the break-threw/ego death process is not to be feared but something to yearn for and welcome into your life. Once I was in a similar position of fear/inexperience and the book (The Psychedelic Experience)(can be read for free on Erowid) by Leary/Metzer/Ram Dass(forget his real name at the moment), helped me to find my way. I am a huge advocate of this manual for spiritual growth. I also break threw/kill my ego with almost every voyage.

So to sum up if you are frightened of the break threw then you probably are not ready/prepared for it. But if these are just nervous little butterflies in your stomach then as they say go out on that stage and break a leg. Just picture all of us watching in our underwear.

Is it worth
the intensity
of seeing
our possibilities?

Yes I say.

no

If it's difficult or impossible for you to get in one hit (high tolerance, etc), it might help to have a friend around to help light/hold the piece, etc. Sometimes it can be a lot easier when the only thing you have to do/think about is breathe.

Dosing with Harmalas and having a GVG really helps.

That was perfectly put. Once u are there, u are there for what seems like alot more than 5 to 7 min. But those moments would make a more holy bible than anything the Gideons can mass produce and distribute. If I could only get the many languages /audible forms of godlike communication on audio..hmmmm

Load up enough, because once hot, it can be hard to refill. Then, go easy on the flame, as it sometimes tends to overheat causing your spice to burning, rendering it ineffective.