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Smoking a breakthrough dose in 1 hit versus 2 or 3 hits. Options
 
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#21 Posted : 2/8/2011 4:24:22 AM

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gibran2 wrote:
A single rapid hit with a GVG (where a full dose is inhaled in a second or two) produces a breakthrough transition so rapid that often there really is no discernable come-up at all. The experience itself is often qualitatively different from a multiple inhalation experience. It is a different “level” of experience, and often very difficult to handle.


SWIM can regularly achieve these one-hitters with an improvised vaporizer if he's so bold as to apply his heating/breathing technique zealously enough to achieve it. Convection heating is certainly the key to achieving this, as conduction almost invariably produces too hot of a vapor, which will often result with a tickle in the throat, urging a cough.

SWIM became quite skilled at managing multiple hit "deposits" into a breakthrough when he used the machine in whatever form--particularly with a bubbler--and since he's been using more convection-oriented devices, he's noticed the habit giving way to going for one-hitters.

While he's nestling the vapor in his lungs after one of these, he'll usually end up with his head almost in his lap, arms around his torso, and eyes clinched shut, and while typically he'd do this only momentarily while absorbing the hit, sometimes he simply doesn't return from this position 'til well traveled and with a fair amount of re-entry shock. Considering SWIM's one to occasionally take a couple hits, realize he needs to urinate, and end up in the bathroom with a gaggle of entities, this level of incapacitation is fairly astounding to him and seems to be more and more a regular occurrence.

gibran2 wrote:
I also doubt that most people would need anywhere near 50mg of DMT if they were able to efficiently vaporize a dose and inhale it in a single rapid hit.


SWIM's gotten to a point where it seems possible that 40-60mg may be more prone to producing a blackout experience, so he'll be experimenting with 30-40mg one-hitters. It seems that the inefficiency of old techniques in all manner of administering the spice has resulted in under-estimating the potency. SWIM's all about making this stuff go further.

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...Its like: Big hit, place bong on table, hyperspace.

You forgot one part: Big hit, place bong on table, last thought is “Oh no, what have I done?!”, hyperspace. Shocked


Ever get that guilty feeling where you start to consider all that you're leaving behind, feeling absolutely certain that there will be no return for just an instant in the launch?
 

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#22 Posted : 2/8/2011 4:54:01 AM

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Ever get that guilty feeling where you start to consider all that you're leaving behind, feeling absolutely certain that there will be no return for just an instant in the launch?

and my inner voice was saying "this is what you wanted...what you were trying to do"....oops...I broke my brain
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#23 Posted : 2/8/2011 5:51:31 AM

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amor_fati wrote:
Ever get that guilty feeling where you start to consider all that you're leaving behind, feeling absolutely certain that there will be no return for just an instant in the launch?


Oooh yes..
 
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#24 Posted : 2/8/2011 8:15:31 AM

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oh boy, SWIM says the 30-40mg one-hitter is definitely the way to go...knocked his socks off every time, it seems. Perhaps a paradigm shift on the horizon? The info will definitely be included in upcoming teks. One go in particular caught his fancy: He experienced a sort of psychically induced cybernetic symbiosis, perhaps brought on by the transhumanistic effect of how it came about--digital dissemination of information, manifested as augmented cognizance and whatnot.

Thanks for the tip, gibran2!
 
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#25 Posted : 2/8/2011 11:57:27 AM

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Ever get that guilty feeling where you start to consider all that you're leaving behind, feeling absolutely certain that there will be no return for just an instant in the launch?

and my inner voice was saying "this is what you wanted...what you were trying to do"....oops...I broke my brain



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#26 Posted : 2/20/2011 10:58:06 PM

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SWIM has had the GVG for a few months now and very much likes it; she is able to get consistent massive hits. But she hasn't been able to break through on a single hit. She doesn't have a scale to measure, but she has held three hits for a count to 60 each time, exhaling a little vapor each time, and it's taken through that third hit. If she's still exhaling vapor after a count to sixty, and she can hear that tone rising the whole time, she thinks it's fair to assume that she did in fact get a pretty massive hit each time. Is it possible that she just needs a lot in order to break through?
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