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Hey every one, I was wondering what the healthiest way of experiencing DMT is. From my research I have found that a pharayhuasca mix of food grade extracted DMT with pure Harmine would be the healthiest rout. Does any one know a healthier way? One for example with a alkaloid that is easier on the body maybe? or more beneficial? I guess the only healthier rout would be to cut out the MAOI while not smoking or injecting. Say for example a dose that is administered either sublingualy or transdermaly. Thanks guys
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=8199) I Eat Plant Magic
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Define "healthy". ¤ø¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø¸„ø¤º¨
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I think that you should just smoke it sure it may take a small fortune on your health say if you were abusing it but because the brain is fond of the this chemical, i know that when the chemical is released into the brain it automatically recognizes it and starts to break it down that why the duration is so short. "You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness." — Terence McKenna
"They Say It helps when you close yours eyes cowboy"
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I'd say aya is the healthiest way psychologically. Yeah MAOIs are safety concerns and you need to watch out for dietary/medication interactions, but it's no big deal. A little bit of plant matter isn't going to hurt you.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4118) DMT-Nexus member
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I say the health and safety section is a good introduction of general tips for healthy/safe dmt usage, taking into account different dimensions of 'health. Check it out and tell us what you think
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Hey guys ya my bad for being so vague so by healthy i mean it as such. Having the least negative effect/ most beneficial effect on the function of the physical body, cognitive ability and psychological stability. The inspiration i had for the question was an article on a study which found that ayahuasca caused a significant up-regulation in the density of the citalopram binding sites which is a sign of neuronal decline. heres the url http://www.erowid.org/ch...yahuasca_journal3.shtml. The part im talking about is only two paragraphs and its about half way through ifyou want to check it out. It goes on to say they believe the it was the tetrahydroharmine (THH) that caused the up-regulation. so enlight of this info i was looking for the "healthiest" MAOI source and or a method of using pure dmt with out smoking or injecting IE. trans dermal or sub lingual. Thanks for all the info guys its been a huge help and check out that article real good info in there.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=8199) I Eat Plant Magic
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For what I would consider a healthy DMT experience, I would take 30-50g of white or yellow caapi vine with a similar (slightly less) quantity of chacruna for a DMT experience with the most beneficial effects. For a DMT experience with the least effects period, I'd say a few hundred mg of clean harmine with a little bit (<100mg) of clean freebase. A purely DMT experience without caapi regulation is not going to be quite as good for stability, IMO. And steer clear of rue and mimosa when taken in their plant forms (don't worry about a clean extract). ¤ø¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø¸„ø¤º¨
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=8199) I Eat Plant Magic
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I'd also like to note that a straight up caapi experience, sans DMT, is quite wonderful! Don't discount caapi too much. ¤ø¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø¸„ø¤º¨
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=8107) DMT-Nexus member
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As you can see, people have suggested just about every way to take it. They've given smoking tips and pharmahuasca tips, and others have suggested just drinking the plant boils as ayahuasca. Some people believe that there is nothing unhealthy about drinking aya teas, while others do not like the stomach discomfort. Some people prefer oral dmt, while others like vaporized.
No matter how you take the sacrament, the active alkaloids will be exactly the same. It's just a matter of how much impurities are in the product. The plants in question are non toxic, and some believe the tannins and fibrous plant material are, in fact, healthy when consumed in controlled amounts. Many consider the purge of ayahuasca healthy. So it's not so much a matter of which is the "healthiest" way, but which way is potentially most unhealthy?
If you smoke, chemicals had to be used to get that product. There is a chance your product might have some chemical impurities, which would be unhealthy to smoke. If you burn your product, that's not healthy to smoke. If there are any plant impurities in your product, those are also harsh to smoke, but not a problem if some plant oils are consumed orally. Smoking is potentially the least healthy way to take it, but if done properly with pure product, vaporized dmt is not harsh on the lungs. As you can see, some people have suggested using changa. I wouldn't do that because smoke of any kind I find too harsh. But it's up to you...
Just don't inject it. Many bad reports.
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Thanks Banana,
Thats what i was thinking as well. When you say that purely DMT experience with out cappi regulation is not going to be quite as good for stability. Is that just during the experience or is that long term mental stability. And how does cappi help to keep it stable? Thanks a Ton!
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=2111) John Murdoch IV
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Well you have shamans over 100 years old in very good health after drinking Ayahuasca a billion times. Seems quite healthy to me ![Smile](/forum/images/emoticons/smile.png) ––––––
DMTripper is a fictional character therefore everything he says here must be fiction. I mean, who really believes there is such a place as Hyperspace!!
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