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#101 Posted : 1/30/2011 12:50:53 AM

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I tried 18 mg of 4-aco-dmt and found it to be very similar to shrooms except for less visual. Has anyone else noticed this? My friend who I took it with remarked the same.
 

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#102 Posted : 1/30/2011 10:09:08 PM

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Anyone tried to combine 4homet with 4aco-dmt? sounds like they would complement each other great.
 
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#103 Posted : 1/30/2011 11:59:46 PM

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SHroomtroll wrote:
tihi i found a place with good price on 4aco, will probably order some soon.

Anyone tried to combine 4homet with 4aco-dmt? sounds like they would complement each other great.


4-aco-dmt is pretty similar to shrooms and 4-ho-met is probably the same. I'm not sure if they would compliment each other in the same way that say LSD and MDMA compliment each other, I'm pretty sure that taking them together will just be like taking more of one. If you find otherwise, let us know.
 
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#104 Posted : 1/31/2011 7:37:17 PM

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shishigami wrote:
SHroomtroll wrote:
tihi i found a place with good price on 4aco, will probably order some soon.

Anyone tried to combine 4homet with 4aco-dmt? sounds like they would complement each other great.


4-aco-dmt is pretty similar to shrooms and 4-ho-met is probably the same. I'm not sure if they would compliment each other in the same way that say LSD and MDMA compliment each other, I'm pretty sure that taking them together will just be like taking more of one. If you find otherwise, let us know.



Actually 4ho-met is preety far from shrooms, if anyting it´s more like lsd, but even that is far off.

The closest comparison is that 4ho-met is psilobins add brother that forces you to spend your trip doing stupid stuff, it´s alot of fun crazy amounts of visuals but very shallow and almost no spirit.

I have yet to try 4aco-dmt but what ive heard its the opposite of 4homet, little visuals but alot of spirit and deep thoughts.
 
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#105 Posted : 1/31/2011 8:14:57 PM

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I've read that 4-HO/AcO-MiPT can be as deep as 4-aco-dmt and as visual as 4-ho-met, might be an interesting tryptamine.
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#106 Posted : 1/31/2011 8:18:58 PM

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^^Ah yeah this one is top of my 'to do' list now. Would also like to try 4-Ho-MET but feel that 4-Ho/Aco-MiPT will have more depth, based on experience reports anyway.
 
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Swim found and ate Baeocystins twice bOth times the body high felt like a cool sensation much like menthol if you can imagine the body high to be like that. Another tried them the same night and reported the same thing. Swim has not encountered them again and is VERY experienced with many varieties of psilocybe; it was... Unique to any other. It was also unique to many of the other tryptamines swim has tried.
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#108 Posted : 2/1/2011 3:43:21 AM

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SHroomtroll wrote:

I have yet to try 4aco-dmt but what ive heard its the opposite of 4homet, little visuals but alot of spirit and deep thoughts.


I agree on the 4-Aco-DMT. It was deeper than the two times I've done shrooms and very lacking in visuals.
 
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#109 Posted : 2/1/2011 7:53:59 AM

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ok swim has just ordered 4-ho-met and some 4-ho mibt nCool
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#110 Posted : 2/1/2011 8:56:29 AM

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How about these ones: 5meomipt, 5meodalt ,5meomet???
 
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#111 Posted : 2/1/2011 10:28:09 AM

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SHroomtroll wrote:
tihi i found a place with good price on 4aco, will probably order some soon.


^^^ this is bordering on what is acceptable here at the nexus, with statements like this you are almost sure to get strangers sending you a PM asking for the web address for the supplier. This we DONT want.

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ok SWIM has just ordered 4-ho-met and some 4-ho mibt nCool


Why do you guys need to advertise to the community and web that you have/probably will buy/found good price on some of these chems?

This is the last time im going to say this, talk of effects/aftereffect/administration of these tryptamines is fine at the nexus, but keep the talk of ordering/procuring/places with good prices out of discussion. Ive said this before and il say it again, there are other forums more suited to this kind of talk!!!
 
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#112 Posted : 2/1/2011 11:22:50 AM

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ok swim apologizes about that,thinking wasn't bad speacking of this argument but just bad speack about links and prices Embarrased
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#114 Posted : 2/1/2011 11:42:17 AM

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Sorry i just was so happy Smile

Anyway i edited my post but it was quoted...
 
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#115 Posted : 2/13/2011 8:03:10 PM

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I got pretty good CEVs with 25-30mg 4-aco-dmt. The visuals(oev and cev alike) from 4-ho-met are batshit-crazy. I am intrigued in the combination of these as I think they would compiment each other. If anyone trys this before me be sure to tell us about the synergy, or lack thereof, I don't know when i will see and 4-aco again Sad
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#116 Posted : 2/13/2011 8:05:29 PM

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Anyone tried 4-Aco-MiPT ? I just acquired some and will probably try it next week.
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#117 Posted : 2/13/2011 9:18:29 PM

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^^Haven't sampled 4-AcO-MiPT yet, but it's on top of my 'to try' list for sure, would be interested to hear how you find the experience if and when you sample it. Am also intrigues by 4-Ho-MET, but the former chemical is the one I'm most interested in.
 
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#118 Posted : 2/14/2011 12:39:09 AM

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justine wrote:
Anyone tried 4-Aco-MiPT ?


i have, only once, at 25 mg... but by then 4-ho-mipt had rocked my world ~18x, so i felt that i was capable of immediately discerning some of their similarities and differences.

Basically, the relationship noted between most 4ho/4aco tryptamine siblings was consistent with my experience: the 4-ho is more direct, more 'lightning bolt' in its approach, while the 4-aco (while still having the potential to be very intense, of course) seems more diffuse, taking more time to unfold, more content to just permeate rather than detonate Wink

Altho i am now trying to focus my energies on plant teachers, for various reasons, i'd be delighted to tango with 4-aco-mipt again. It had all the crisp alien cerebral juiciness of miprocin, but less of the sense you are a mosquito that just flew into the giant electric bug zapper of God Shocked

it was a while ago, i wish i could offer more details. i will say that i haven't met a mediocre x-x-mipt yet - 4-ho is a revered ally, and 4-aco & even 5-meo were rich and of integrity... is it just me?! ...my curiosity about the oft-overlooked plain ol' MIPT is definitely piqued...
 
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#119 Posted : 2/15/2011 4:06:26 PM

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Bancopuma wrote:
^^Haven't sampled 4-AcO-MiPT yet, but it's on top of my 'to try' list for sure, would be interested to hear how you find the experience if and when you sample it. Am also intrigues by 4-Ho-MET, but the former chemical is the one I'm most interested in.


I will post a report after I sample it (30mg fumarate next monday or tuesday). Otherwise the high popularity of 4-HO-MET compared to 4-AcO-DMT seems to speak volumes as to the intentions of most "psychonauts", I have to
say I'm quite disgusted by the reports I read on most boards ("took some before going to a rave, this is the shit dudes LOL" ), however with the right mindset it might lead to profound experiences (at least that's what
some reports seem to indicate).
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#120 Posted : 2/16/2011 4:58:54 AM

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It's unfortunate that people use psychedelics just to "get fucked up brah" but its the way of the world. I mgiht add that the popularity of 4-ho-met vs. 4-aco-dmt may also be related to the fact that 4-aco-dmt is significantly riskier to stock because an amount of the product degrades to 4-ho-dmt which we know is illegal. It may just have to do with availability.

Can anyone compare 4-aco-dipt to 4-aco-mipt.

 
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