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Apoc
#41 Posted : 1/29/2011 12:56:20 AM

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The most fucked-up psychedelic i know is chaliponga, though. Not included either, but it should be. Whether it contains 5-MeO-DMT is still an issue of debate, but let's say that people who've taken both find them very simmilar in effect. My experience is confined to chaliponga, so i can't judge whether it's very much like 5-MeO-spice or not, but i can say that it's most definately more mindfucking than LSD, shrooms and DMT combined. Of all the psychedelic's i'm familiar with, this stuff is the most of a white-knuckle-ride. It realy is.


Interesting. What was so fucked about chaliponga? What was your dose and method of intake? What was the experience like?
 

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#42 Posted : 1/29/2011 2:58:37 AM

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Apoc wrote:
polytrip wrote:
The most fucked-up psychedelic i know is chaliponga, though. Not included either, but it should be. Whether it contains 5-MeO-DMT is still an issue of debate, but let's say that people who've taken both find them very simmilar in effect. My experience is confined to chaliponga, so i can't judge whether it's very much like 5-MeO-spice or not, but i can say that it's most definately more mindfucking than LSD, shrooms and DMT combined. Of all the psychedelic's i'm familiar with, this stuff is the most of a white-knuckle-ride. It realy is.


Interesting. What was so fucked about chaliponga? What was your dose and method of intake? What was the experience like?


Yes. Please tell us more. I just ordered some. There seems to be very limited info on chaliponga. Any details of your experience would be greatly appreciated.
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polytrip
#43 Posted : 1/29/2011 3:17:46 PM
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Chaliponga can be used in different ways in ayahuasca brews. Combined with chacruna in small amounts, it will create a very nice experience where it mostly alters a 'normal ayahuasca experience' and gives more spectaculare visions and just a tiny bit more mindfuck. Taken in large amounts without chacruna it gives a totally different experience than ayahuasca as most people know it.

The most typical effect of chaliponga is a very strong sensation of total alienation. There is a feeling as if every sensation you have is strange and alien to you. This aplies to things you see, as well as your own body, your own thoughts and in strong doses even your own counsciousness. In moderate amounts, you can look around you and get the feeling as if your own house isn't your own house, like somebody has build an exact replica of your own house to the tiniest detail and then put you in it. You knów that something is different, but you just can't get your finger on it.

My strongest and strangest experience with it, was the first time i used it. I thought it should be used in a simmilar way as chacruna and i added 20 gramsShocked to a brew that already had chacruna in itShocked. At the peak of that trip, i thought that i had died of a heard attack or something, and that the thing i experienced to be 'me' was only a ghost. Ofcourse i knew that i had taken a strong psychedelic brew and that it could have been a dillusion. But the thing is that my experience of myself and what was my body was simply so utterly alien and unreal, that i simply could not proof to myself that i was alive. I totally wasn't able to tell anymore whether i was alive or dead, it was all just too strange.

This is the best description i can give. I can only strongly disrecomend taking such doses. Of all psychedelic's, chaliponga is most difficult to describe to people who haven't experienced it themselves, because what it realy means to you when you're in it is something...imagine that all of a sudden you discover that life isn't real and that you're not even real yourself. It's like experiencing exactly that.
The visions are very close to those of that blueberry clip. They're pale and extremely tangible.
The type of synesthesia, the tangibillity of the visions you have with closed eyes or in the dark, comes very close to mescaline.
In fact it feels very simmilar to mescaline in many ways, but besides the fact that it's visions are very pale instead of warm and colourfull, it totally lacks the comforting warmth of mescaline. While mescaline is a substance on wich it is very hard to have a bad trip, chaliponga has that alien dimension and the lack of that comforting warmth, wich makes it very easy to totally lose it.
 
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#44 Posted : 1/29/2011 6:44:45 PM

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Cosmic Rift wrote:
I've smoked for 8 years, usually only high quality or medicinal marijuana, and I have only experienced a single panic attack, and I would have had it anyways. I own many vaporizers and have had many edibles, I don't think it can compare. I've been known to smoke as much as an ounce in a sitting (with a person or two) and at least an eighth to a quarter a day - in reality I've only seen lightweight marijuana smokers have "bad trips".


I've never had a problem smoking, but pot brownies have driven me nuts before. Taking cannabis orally completely cancels out the limit on the high. When smoking, the more I smoke the less effect each hit has. When I drop a brownie baked with an eighth of chronic, it's not good. Very unpleasant body load.


Otherwise, I'll say mushrooms. Acid definitely makes me paranoid, but I can tolerate it or distract myself. With mushrooms, it looms over me, twisting my mind up into a manic-depressive state that infiltrates all attempts to cheer up. Bad times on DMT have been rather indifferent as if it's kicking my ass, but I don't care, if that makes any sense.
 
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#45 Posted : 1/29/2011 6:54:42 PM

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When smoking DMT out of a bong or a pipe, it seems that when I try to cash out the remaining residue, the trips always take a turn to the darkside.

Haven't had this issue since using the GVG.
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#46 Posted : 1/30/2011 1:21:01 AM

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polytrip wrote:

My strongest and strangest experience with it, was the first time i used it. I thought it should be used in a simmilar way as chacruna and i added 20 gramsShocked to a brew that already had chacruna in itShocked. At the peak of that trip, i thought that i had died of a heard attack or something, and that the thing i experienced to be 'me' was only a ghost. Ofcourse i knew that i had taken a strong psychedelic brew and that it could have been a dillusion. But the thing is that my experience of myself and what was my body was simply so utterly alien and unreal, that i simply could not proof to myself that i was alive. I totally wasn't able to tell anymore whether i was alive or dead, it was all just too strange.


I've actually experienced exactly that on a big dose of shrooms. And that was quite early on a trip that I will never forget Razz Crazy, but most of it schizophrenic fun where I for example thought my friend that I met was actually a robot from outer space that had killed my friend and taken it's form to try to trick me to give her some very important information, and some things like that Smile I felt like I got involved into some universal spy espionage Smile hehe
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#47 Posted : 1/30/2011 2:40:01 PM
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DMTripper wrote:
polytrip wrote:

My strongest and strangest experience with it, was the first time i used it. I thought it should be used in a simmilar way as chacruna and i added 20 gramsShocked to a brew that already had chacruna in itShocked. At the peak of that trip, i thought that i had died of a heard attack or something, and that the thing i experienced to be 'me' was only a ghost. Ofcourse i knew that i had taken a strong psychedelic brew and that it could have been a dillusion. But the thing is that my experience of myself and what was my body was simply so utterly alien and unreal, that i simply could not proof to myself that i was alive. I totally wasn't able to tell anymore whether i was alive or dead, it was all just too strange.


I've actually experienced exactly that on a big dose of shrooms. And that was quite early on a trip that I will never forget Razz Crazy, but most of it schizophrenic fun where I for example thought my friend that I met was actually a robot from outer space that had killed my friend and taken it's form to try to trick me to give her some very important information, and some things like that Smile I felt like I got involved into some universal spy espionage Smile hehe

Well, then you know what to expect when you take this plant. Chaliponga is a plant that is, i would say, specialized
in that sort of total alienation and strangeness.
 
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