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Psychic Head
#1 Posted : 1/28/2011 3:50:23 AM

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What is going on with music on the Nexus? Is there anybody in music production? I love electronic music (well, all kinds for that matter) and produce a little at home and have a few really good synths and programs.

My question is this: has anyone ever attempted to musically catch the DMT experience? I'm not talking Shpongle or Tool, which to me captures the experience lyrically but the actual sounds...but then, the aural experience may be different for everybody, right? I hear a carrier wave which eventually encompasses the whole trip and then dissolves into 'reality' at the end, and an initial rustling of wings but other than that I can't remember. I need to pay more attention on my travels!

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Mister_Niles
#2 Posted : 1/28/2011 4:56:29 AM

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Psychic Head wrote:
What is going on with music on the Nexus? Is there anybody in music production? I love electronic music (well, all kinds for that matter) and produce a little at home and have a few really good synths and programs.

My question is this: has anyone ever attempted to musically catch the DMT experience? I'm not talking Shpongle or Tool, which to me captures the experience lyrically but the actual sounds...but then, the aural experience may be different for everybody, right? I hear a carrier wave which eventually encompasses the whole trip and then dissolves into 'reality' at the end, and an initial rustling of wings but other than that I can't remember. I need to pay more attention on my travels!

"Let go!"


I do a lot of different styles of music. Experimental, Rock, Electronic, Ambient. I'm mostly a guitar player and I do a lot of delay loping, ala Robert Fripp, but more organic. He's too uptight. Big Eno fan. I like glitch and drill and bass and many subgenres of electronic music, from totally esoteric process based stuff and modern classical to electro.
I'm also really into acoustic guitar. Micheal Hedges and Leo Kottke fingerstyle, minus the discipline and talent. More improvised. I tried some singing with drones on changa. The process of interpreting he DMT experience with music sounds like a daunting, most likely impossible challenge.
I like synths too. I've partially built a PAIA 9700 modular (all but the VCA) I have a Moog Rogue and lots of soft synths. I really like the Arturia Moog modular and the XILS 3, which is a software emulation of the EMS VC3. It's pretty amazing.

Should we get some people on here who record swapping tracks back and forth to build an epic suite that attempts to capture the essence of the DMT experience? I'd be into it.
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#3 Posted : 1/28/2011 5:03:01 AM

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I'm in Smile

I find a lot of the sounds of DMT space are just my own thought patterns sliced, stuttered and reversed. Maybe sometimes I get a monotonic hum that slightly bends in pitch and a lot of pings and whizzing sounds.

I play guitar and didgeridoo mainly, but also play a little sitar and tabla. I produce electronic music using cubase.
 
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#4 Posted : 1/28/2011 3:13:46 PM

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soulfood wrote:
I'm in Smile

I find a lot of the sounds of DMT space are just my own thought patterns sliced, stuttered and reversed. Maybe sometimes I get a monotonic hum that slightly bends in pitch and a lot of pings and whizzing sounds.

I play guitar and didgeridoo mainly, but also play a little sitar and tabla. I produce electronic music using cubase.


I sold my tablas. Too dificult to start learning at 40. I got an electronic drum kit instead. Much easier. If you watch people like Zakir Hussain they make it look so easy! I guess if you start playing when you are a child, that helps.

I hear the pings and whizzez too, the bending up tones that are all chopped up like a snare rush.

So who starts? Should I provide a drone? Any key preference? File type preference? Let's try it. I suppose anyone should be welcome to participate. We can always do a bunch of edits/mixes if things get too convoluted. We could always do it exquisite corpse style.
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Psychic Head
#5 Posted : 1/28/2011 3:17:19 PM

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Mr. Niles: I would love to build my own modular but time won't allow right now. I've looked into Paia and also MOTM based out of Dallas, Tx. Currently I have seven moogerfoogers, a Spectralis, Future-Retro XS and Orb sequencer, a MicroKorg, Korg Kaosspad, a newly-acquired Boss Dr. 202, and use Reason and Digital Performer. As of yet, all of this has been dormant because my midi-interface needs repair, so...as far as influence I'm listening to Boards of Canada a lot right now. In one of my posts about a summer DMT excursion I was listening to Panda Bear all day which seemed to fit the trip very well.

Soulfood: I have a didgeridoo also! I haven't gotten to where I can keep an extended drone going and I still need practice.

I am completely into being able to swap tracks! If anyone here is aware of Digital Performer it has the capability to import tracks from most sources and I can put together what anyone sends me. I can also convert what people send me into WAV files, plug them into Reason, and then go forth and conquer!

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I find a lot of the sounds of DMT space are just my own thought patterns sliced, stuttered and reversed. Maybe sometimes I get a monotonic hum that slightly bends in pitch and a lot of pings and whizzing sounds.
Thanks for putting words to the sounds! To me it is more of a gated effect with some filter sweeps.

For your pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUqId5WpH0o
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soulfood
#6 Posted : 1/28/2011 4:20:24 PM

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I posted this in another thread recently, but from around the 2 minute mark this has a very hyperspace sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ2qEah8Fns

I'd usually just bounce down to wavs with silence at the begining and end of the sound to mark the time that a certain component falls in the track. Maybe with a notepad file attached listing bpm, changes etc.
 
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#7 Posted : 1/28/2011 4:59:54 PM

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Had an amazing excursion using ableton live back in november . we had 2 laptops and assorted synths going in a remote cabin in the middle of nowhere
using a generator and batteries to run everything. Recorded the whole thing . soon to be assembled into a workable project.

Ableton is amazing for those who haven't tried working with it. Very creative and open once you figure out the basics.

I've used Digital performer for years its also a great program.

Hard to capture the exact sounds of hyperspace. I was listening carefully to some these high pitched clicking sounds during a trip the other night.
its very consistent with a certain intense level of experience.
Ultra high frequency tones that stay steady and are intermingled with a complex garbling .

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#8 Posted : 1/28/2011 5:14:33 PM

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Also, you never hear frequency clashes in hyperspace! The brain really is the best medium for music...

ah the possibilities!
 
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#9 Posted : 1/28/2011 5:31:00 PM

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Check out The first stone - 5meo DMT. it has a part that sounds like the pitched up beep that sometimes comes when smoking nnDMT. don´t know why they called it 5meo though, maybe it to has the same noise.
 
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#10 Posted : 1/30/2011 2:53:11 AM

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I would love to build my own modular but time won't allow right now. I've looked into Paia and also MOTM based out of Dallas, Tx. Currently I have seven moogerfoogers


Dang! That's a lot of fuggers. And yeah. I'd love to have a MOTM, or ideally a Buchla (or Serge. Ha!) but that isn't going to happen. Maybe a Synthesizers dot com modular. We'll see.

I was thinking about you guys in this thread today when I tested my new GVG for the firs time. I was in dmt space, and I was hearing nothing. I thought, "What does hyperspace sound like?". And I heard a woman on my left yell: "Marthaaaaaa!" Then louder, with that strange phase distortion that I sometimes hear while tripping. It was louder. Then I heard a laser sound echoing on my right, ping ponging up and down, and it sounded sort of like: delp delp delp. but whith shimmering watery chorus that had mass and looked like glass surrounding the sound. Then it was a voice, actually saying "delp, delp delp"
Then the dmt started playing my tinnitus, which is much more noticeable while I'm tripping. It was like a sped up Lamonte Young drift piece.

I like Boards of Canada btw. Have you heard Bibio? Along the same lines, with more complex fingerstyle guitar playing.


So, let's make some noises.
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#11 Posted : 1/30/2011 3:07:49 AM

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Hmmm I found out that next to ambient, chill out etc. I love listening to old school dub while on DMT. I'm a big reggae lover, so it might not be for everybody, but some Augustus Pablo productions really do it for me. It's kind of voodoo music in a way, with the melodica, percussion and flutes. It will definitely give you a different trip that listening to electronic music, but I kind of like that grounded, down to earth kind of vibe while tripping. It's an interesting synergy! This is what I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTwNzv-GAw
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#12 Posted : 1/30/2011 3:15:19 AM

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If you get a chance check out this documentary called scratch its all about djs and scratchin really good music.
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#13 Posted : 1/30/2011 3:41:10 AM

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[quote=Mad Professor]Hmmm I found out that next to ambient, chill out etc. I love listening to old school dub while on DMT. I'm a big reggae lover, so it might not be for everybody, but some Augustus Pablo productions really do it for me. It's kind of voodoo music in a way, with the melodica, percussion and flutes. It will definitely give you a different trip that listening to electronic music, but I kind of like that grounded, down to earth kind of vibe while tripping. It's an interesting synergy! This is what I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTwNzv-GAw[/quote]

Hence the handle Mad Professor. I like King Tubby a lot. Augustus Pablo too. Not much more reggae though. Have you ever heard Dub Syndicate? As far as the On-u Sound stuff goes I actually prefer African Head Charge, which is really odd dub influenced strangeness. You'd probably like some of it if you like Mad Professor.



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