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unclesyd
#1 Posted : 1/26/2011 5:01:19 AM

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So I have very little actual DMT experience. I mainly indulge in shrooms and 4-aco-dmt. My few DMT smoked experiences I wouldn't say I broke-threw, but I definitely got a good taste. They were really too intense and short for any real (ritual) to take place.

That is what I like to call my voyages, undertaking the ritual. As part of this ritual I need to do some yoga stretching. Guided by an unforeseen hand I partake in an intense yoga exercise after shedding my old self (this is symbolized for my as my shirt-obviously my shirt is not the entire of my past ego)this is then followed by the break threw, and then the glorious glowing period.

I am told this yoga exercise is essential to allow the correct energies to flow threw me.

Question posed: So do you practice the sacred yoga????? Does anyone else have anything like this. I know many of you practice meditation and yoga exercises during your voyages, but are you completely out of control. I have no control over my actions. It is an automated process. I do continue to voluntarily recite my mantra(the simple ohm), but the sacred yoga motions are guided.

Another question is does anyone consider their voyages as rituals as well. A ritual of shedding the ego, raising your consciousness, of attempting the impossible and becoming the fully realized personality of Godhead.

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#2 Posted : 1/26/2011 8:31:16 AM

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Glad you made this topic UncleSyd.

Personally I do create a ritual space for my spice journeys. There are several reasons why I do this, but by in large, I find it beneficial to the whole overall experience. Rituals are patterns observed by our rational mind. Though they may not mean much on this side of infinity, they have a subconscious way of preparing the mind for the journey it is about to undertake. Rituals allow your mind to focus on the moment allowing you to "tune in" so to speak.

My ritual space and practice has been created with my personal touch, borrowing (what I feel are) important aspects of different cultures/beliefs. For example yoga and mediation form the crux of my rituals. By I also include symbols by which to meditate upon. i.e. a sand hourglass, so as to meditate on the transformation affects of the ever passing time; past, present and future. A candle; the transformational power of Illumination. Chakra crystals etc. I have a few mantras that I work with depending on what I feel like needs to be focused. Not only are these items "functional" in a sense, but they create a home-space for me. Allowing me to feel safe and warm and fuzzy temporarily as I let go of my body temporarily.

Lastly, one reason why I thoroughly enjoy creating a spice ritual is because if anything, it completely adds to the experience. It also gives me a projection platform for my inner self. The things I find important and meditate daily about. When I invite very special friends to partake with me, they are completely blown away. Many have never approached a substances so...seriously, thoughtfully, even...intimately. And I dislike the word serious there. Because our spice sessions are anything but that. The ritual basically sets up the playing field so to speak. From there we laugh, cry, pray, hug etc. as we need. My ritual intention is not to make the imbibing of spice a super deadly serious idea. But rather, I like to create a home within a home. A place of healing and acceptance for anyone that is curious enough to partake.

And on a final word. Creating my spice ritual has helped me to not partake the spice so casually. Because it's harder for me to get in the willing, ego-softened mindset, without creating this "home-space".

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#3 Posted : 1/26/2011 6:22:16 PM

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unclesyd wrote:
Question posed: So do you practice the sacred yoga????? Does anyone else have anything like this. I know many of you practice meditation and yoga exercises during your voyages, but are you completely out of control. I have no control over my actions. It is an automated process. I do continue to voluntarily recite my mantra(the simple ohm), but the sacred yoga motions are guided.

Another question is does anyone consider their voyages as rituals as well. A ritual of shedding the ego, raising your consciousness, of attempting the impossible and becoming the fully realized personality of Godhead.


Hey Now unclesyd,

In answer to your question, yes and no. I don't know enough about what you are describing as Sacred Yoga. As I am sure many of us are aware, within the cosmology of classical Indian philosophy, the Sanskrit word "yoga" represents the idea of holistic union/unity/everythingness. I have always felt this implied a symbiosis of sorts, a merging of one's individual, subjective consciousness with the Indivisible force of Omni Consciousness or God. I suspect my interpretation is not far from that of intended by the Rishis who crafted this cosmology? I believe that such a union takes place on multiple levels, simultaneously (physically, psychologically, intellectually and spiritually).

If you are speaking of the physical system of Hatha Yoga asanas (varied bodily postures designed to produce attunement towards the internal energies flowing throughout our physiological systems), then yes I have been practicing these for nearly 40 years, to some extent or another. Feeling the need to add movement to my training, I embraced tai chi chuan and synthesized the two methods into a simple way of life and a daily form of ritual, albeit a small ritualistic patterning. The Chinese word Qi is as close to any conceptual symbol that I have found to represent this internal energy, which is in everything and is everything. The singular, formless and most undefinable essence, cloaked as the myriad forms of the many.

There is much to learn and I am open to new interpretations and/or methodologies of harmonizing the body, mind and spirit. Do you assume these yogic postures or have you a unique perception of "yoga" that has it's own meaning ans translation? Please elucidate. I find this kind of discussion most fascinating and very inspiring. You say that these postures manifest themselves without your conscious control? Interesting! Are they traditional Hatha Yoga postures or are you implying a spontaneous experience, which has a whole definition of it's own? Wut?

With the aid of Sacred Medicines (psychedelic substances) or without their mind-blowing assistance, the process of ritual is essential with any significant transformative spiritual self discovery. I suspect that many folks do experience ritualistic processes of consciousness shifting, they just may perceive of this process in terms other than ritual? In my definition of ritual, there exists a decided intention to go through an exponential expansion in awareness. The unfoldment of the ritual contains familiar patterns of intention and/or bodily movements. I personally prefer to include some variation of dancing in the initial steps towards this ritualistic voyage, followed by more static body posturing, like with Hatha Yoga. This framework is the methodology I follow, before seating in the lotus posture for embracing lift-off into alternate planes of: body, movement, flowing energy and self.

It contains a small, organized cluster of exercises designed to heighten an internal focus and bring the thought process to a more still point of concentration. So there are definitive stages, of gradual attunement, climaxing in the cessation of the personal identification to physical and psychological forms of modality or "ego death". Conversely, the inter-phasing with Universal Self or in archaic terms... God-Brahman-Allah. What I have grown accustomed to thinking of as, conscious immersion with Omniscience and thus... the Void.

I too, use sound as a means to draw deeper into the fulcrum of our connection to the pure light of formless consciousness, that being the "third eye". I have a preference for thinking of this phenomenon as the singular eye, although it seems more of a lens to me, by which awareness witnesses another entire level of being. A plane or frequency of indivisible cosmic mind? This is one of the most important parts of ritual during this Sacred voyage, for it is also a doorway of sorts, or rather, a portal. This portal is a direct point of access to union with the oneness of Spirit. Shocked

Utilizing the primordial sound of the OM vibration as an avenue towards a state of merging with it's source, is intrinsic in this journey. These manifestations touch us in very specific areas of overlapping territories or what might be termed, the human soul or auric body. Such an electromagnetic patterning has parameters housed within the seven centers of spiraling, radiating energy vortexes (chakras). This is what many Nexians label as "mumbo jumbo". I believe the origins of the sarcastic term, mumbo jumbo, are rooted in the racist and decidedly dismissive attitude of the British Colonialists, while suppressing India and undermining much of it's cultural character and religious dogma? This is akin to saying, "witch doctor" as a derogatory assessment of many indigenous native forms of shamanism; originally was a form of intentional racism and was issued from a stance of arrogance and superiority. IMHO, it comes across as rather smug and closed-minded, so it reflects quite poorly on those who cherish it's continued usage in the 21St century. I digress...

From my small understanding of these mechanics, the process of an unfolding ritual facilitates the yoga between the sentient witness and the indivisible force of the creative spirit. The Awakening of the Omniself. This paves the way for the eclipsing of the relative and the eternal. In one moment of true union, a vacuum seems to take self away and yet, awareness persists, without boundaries or subjectivity. The interphase with the Void is the culmination of the intention of the ritual.

This idea, as does all thinking and interpreting awareness through an organized structure of symbolic meaning and identification, ceases when the proper mental emptiness is actualized/attained. Nothing can be told with linguistics of this level of being. Our subjective conception of nothingness cannot even come close to accurately describing such a plane of being. Ironically, we return form this point in timelessness, inspired by the glimpse beyond ourselves and the immeasurable power of the state of mind which is referred to as enlightenment. :idea:

As our cognition of reality recrystallizes before our very eyes, one of the first cluster thoughts which frequently arises in this post-peaking re-emergence are something like, "All is One. God is everything. I am that which is everything." So obviously, these are rationalizations about an experience which transcends the the realm of the known and the finite boundaries of self. So no language has the magical stuff, by which we could connect these experiences into a concrete enough concept to be proven, irrefutably.

I suspect that it can never be proven, only experienced Omni-personally and integrated to limited degrees? Little by little, through repeated immersion and the above mentioned eclipsing, a way is cleared towards the living spirit of pure, undifferentiated awareness of a level of consciousness which is opposite from anything we know. The paradox is that it is everything we know and more than we can ever know. Please guys, no overtly challenging arguments, OK? Thoughts? Can an authentic, contemporary science of Spirit be cultivated to the degree that we have a proven model, by which to accurately map these states of awareness?

Still when we experience the true essence and meaning of Sacred Yoga, frequently individuals can find nothing more fascinating to think about or to speak of. This is certainly so in my case. Which is not actually possible to encapsulate with human language, with any degree of certainty, since we are back living in the realm of form and subjectivity, isolated perceptions receiving data from our senses and translating them through the vehicle of our own unique intelligence. Well there you have it, in a nutshell... Wink

Thanks for sharing! Please do shed more light on your impressions and beliefs about this Sacred Yoga.

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#4 Posted : 1/31/2011 9:05:45 PM
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You might feel some interest in The Tibetan Book of the Dead or the Bardo Thodol,, the Timothy Leary version is very good and also points the way to including prayer and ritual into psychedelic experience.

As far as I know,, the tibetan believe in a transition stage between death and rebirth called the Bardo,, the explanation of it is pretty close to how we experience DMT IMO.
It is said that with in the bardo,, if one receive proper guidance towards the clear light by hearing true words of the prayer and understand it in that moment one can attain enlightenment..
There is also a sect of tibet Yoga practice called the Death Yoga,, which I'd guess use this path as spiritual practice
 
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#5 Posted : 2/1/2011 1:30:05 AM

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I do yoga regularly and I think it's the single best thing to make you ready for DMT. And DMT helps me understand Yoga and what Hatha Yoga does for you. How important it is for your body and mind to be pure.

And when I come back from strong DMT trips (doesn't need to be a breakthrough) I feel the energies flow and I like to do some Tai Chi movements. Doing some flowing movements makes the energies flow and settle into the system or something. That's what I feel. I feel very energized.
The afterglow is stronger and last longer if I do these movements. Actually I'm convinced I lived in China some in a past life and I did serious Kung Fu Smile It surfaces when I dive into my subconscious reality Smile All knowledge is in there Smile
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