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Lifting_the_veil
#1 Posted : 1/25/2011 2:18:32 PM

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So my dog isis had a great friend come over and show her how to make spice. Isis doesnt know the specifics of the measurements used because hes a little spacey sometimes. I know that he has done this before and has always turned out well. He took care of the first pull and Isis already noticed some nice crystals on her pull. He left Isis in charge of the last three pulls. the second was noticeably darker than his, however, is also starting to form some small crystals. the last two pull seems to have noticeably more naptha in them so Isis is pretty certain she may have added too much to mix. Thes third pull has only been in the fridge for less than 15 hours and the last Isis just completed.

So isis wants to know would it be beneficial for her to put some pics up? Also these are in sealed mason jars in the fridge is this a good method? How long typically do you let these go for in the freezer? and what should I do with the naptha that ill be left with after this precipitation? I dont want to wast anything.


Thanks in advance. Im sure there is a frustrating lack of specifics here so bare with me and My crazy lil dog. (plus golden dragon tincture in my coffee making this a bit of a challenge to typeWink )

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Dr_Sister
#2 Posted : 1/25/2011 4:30:54 PM

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Hi lifting the veil

Usually the volume of naptha is reduced by at least 50% by evaporating the naptha before the freeze precipitation, that way the solution is more saturated and more dmt will precipitate when in the freezer. But if you like you can wait until some crystal drop out of solution then evaporate off a bunch of the naptha before putting it back in the freezer. Sister puts the dmt/naptha solution in a stainless steel salad bowl and then floats that on a pot full of hot water (like a double boiler) to speed the evaporation out of doors. If you want to save all your naptha you will need to distill it off.

Mason jars are fine as long as they are well sealed, it what Sister uses. Your left over naptha can be reused after you have most of your dmt.

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#3 Posted : 1/25/2011 6:00:33 PM

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Thanks dr,

So if i havent done the double boiler evaporation before hand, i should just wait out the freeze precip? I know patience provides but i guess i was expecting a diff yield.


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#4 Posted : 1/25/2011 8:10:59 PM

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Isis could wait it out, then reduce/evap the solvent, but if it were Sister, she would pool all the solvent, evap it, then back in the freezer for the motherload right away.

For reference when Sister extracts 1kg of MHRB she uses close to 2 litres of naptha to extract (4x 500mls), then reduces it to less than 500mls of naptha. As soon as it comes off the double boiler the solution gets cloudy and crystals start to fall out almost immediately. (its very cold outside where sister is). The freeze precipitation is finished when the solution becomes clear. The only way to get more dmt to fall out is put it in a colder freezer or reduce the solvent volume even further. The more Isis reduces the solvent the more dmt will fall out.

But don't reduce it all (evap all the solvent) or you will be left with some impurities in the final product, and this may make crystalization difficult, ending up with a syrup or an oil instead of fluffy crystals.
 
Lifting_the_veil
#5 Posted : 1/26/2011 12:06:13 AM

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thanks again sister,


So next process will def include the double boil evaporation before Isis puts it in the freezer. She is going to let the freezer run its course on this the first run, but, after pouring off the naptha after freezing would isis benefit from double boiling the naptha and refreezing?
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