yessir it will all fit in a qt jar

i like to space my pulls apart (a day) but i'm sure it doesn't need that much wait time.

When swim added the powdered MHBR to the basic solution, clumps formed and it wouldn't sink, so swim stirred until he/she could get most of the clumps to mix with the solution but still some remained. Also a small layer of bubbles formed at the top. Will the clumps break up and are the bubbles (emulsions?) normal?

^^^ yes its normal if there is not enough base. Ive never had that problem of it forming clumps though. Is it wet enough? Either way you need to add more base solution, add till there is no emulsion and its black black.

The clumps are gone. Swim stirred and prodded them until they broke up. Swim put a vibrating controller against the jar for 15 minutes or so but there is still a small ring of bubbles along the top. What proportion of naoh to water, 1:8? Also will this affect the yield further down the road?

Ive never really weighed it when adding more base to get rid of emulsion. Just make a strong solution of say 100-200ml or so, add some, mix it around and add more if needed.

And no it wont destroy the yield in any way, tis a sturdy molecule we are working with here

Also you say you only using 1 pull of naptha 113ml. Thats way too much naptha to use for 1 pull, member are using like .4ml/gram bark. Id prolly use like say 40ml or so, add it to the jug, mix around, let separate, mix some more let separate, pull. The add the next 40ml naptha and repeat. Once collected the 2nd and 3rd pull add to first and freeze(evap a bit if needed). Collect the goodies after a day or two(carefull you dont fall over when you see the snowglobe) Then go to step 5.

Thanks, I'll relay that to swim. Should he swirl after adding more? That may have been what got him in trouble the first time.

Ya, he told me he's using this tek (http://i.imgur.com/gqIkj.jpg) and scaled it down for 75g mhbr.
So you're saying he should do the first pull, put in jar, the next couple, put in same jar then freeze?

You can add the three pulls together and freeze or freeze each pull on its own. Not much difference either way I suppose.

Swim added 150ml water and 20g noah to the mix. there are still a couple bubbles but a lot less than before. It looks almost exactly like number 4 in this picture http://i.imgur.com/gqIkj.jpg but higher up in the jar. It worked for the guy who took the pictures, so swim's not going to worry about it and hope for the best.

After the naphtha was added and mixed, it separated ok but was completely clear. It should be yellowish right?

Edit: swim shook harder and is freezing now. Half an hour in the crystals started forming. Thanks for all the help guys! Swim appreciates it.

I performed an STB extraction about three months ago; did one small pull and one large pull, and then managed to forget about the jar. The jar contains water, lye, mimosa bark, and a small amount of leftover naphtha I hadn't been able to fully pull out. The jar has been sitting under a bed for roughly three months, sealed and away from sunlight.

Would it still be safe to add fresh naphtha to the jar and perform another pull or two? My biggest fear is that the lye could have broken down into something (or broken down something in the bark) in the months it's been sitting there, rendering it dangerous, but I don't know enough chemistry to know with any certainty.

Thank you for any information you can shed .

Go for it.
At worst the lye will have broken down a bunch of plant crap in the bark that will be a pain to clean out, but it's worth a shot.

Not always, yellow means some oils and fats have been pulled too. As lond as you did the 3 cycles pf mixing and separating its good to pull.

I've prepared about 8 liters of rue tea, didn't add salt at all, want to evaporate all of the tea this time for some fun.

But:
Can't wait for all that big volume of water to evaporate by itself. I've put it on the stove and lightly heating it (not even simmering) to help evaporating faster. but it will take about 20 hours to finish I guess, does the harmalas get destroyed by that heat and duration? (vinegar was added)

You can bring it to a rolling boil and the harmalas will be fine as long as they're still in water.

So SWIM is trying their hand at a STB extraction on MHRB. Been following nomans tek pretty closely. SWIM is a chemistry major so WWIM kinda knows how to follow procedure correctly but unfortunately has run into some problems.

Everything is gravy until Freeze Precip. SWIM gets a fairly large pull of naphtha from two 1 gallon (200g MHRB) bottles. SWIM then evaps these pulls down until they are cloudy when blown on. Then throw em in the freezer for over 18 hours.

PROBLEM IS: yield sucks. maybe 200 mg of fluffy/WAXY white crystals on the jars. Nothing like the insane amounts seen on the nexus. So should SWIM keep doing this until exhausted and recrystallize or should SWIM go at something else...i.e. heat baths??

burtonridr152, you say that you get a "fairly large pull" from the 200g bottles, did you only do 1 pull per bottle? also how much naptha was used? you should be doing small pulls, say .4ml/gram bark.

Either way you want to keep pulling till no more spice comes out. Heat baths(both naptha and mimosa soup) will help in the later pulls, but they might pull more fats/oils too.

Other than that, all I can say is, crap bark?

PS- you say "maybe 200mg", have you weighed it with a scale, if not how sure are you that its about 200mg? DMT density can vary quite alot.

gamma, i've probably done three pulls from each bottle. No more than 120 ml of naptha used. actually i just got a glass syringe so i can get every last drop out.

haven't weighed it with a scale. gonna try that tonight. also, is it typical for it to be waxy?? should i recrystallize?

i hope the bark isnt crappy, got it from ascension bot.

yeah waxy is normal.. I suggest redissolving in alcohol/acetone and re-evapping to getting rid of solvent traces.

do weigh with scale and post back. I have no idea about ascension bot. I usually recommend any resellers from adenium because they are sure-quality bark. Check our suppliers section.

Maybe evap naphtha further down and freeze again? Also another thing you can do is do another pull (warm, and make many mix/let stand cycles before pulling), pre evap and freeze it. Just one pull, freezing it separately. If you get anything to crash out, keep doing more pulls..

Good luck!

Let's say that one were doing a STB on 100g MHRB. let's say they used roughly 600ml of water to (very roughly) 100g of pure lye, then added about 60-65 ml of naptha to take advantage of the avdantage of slightly heating the naphtha.

let's also say that this person noticed that the solution was very thick and that thinning it out a bit might aid the solvent in collecting the goodies.

question: can this person safely add a little more water and a little more lye to the solution? any dangers or pitfalls to doignt his revision?

also, is a 24 hour soak absolutely necessary for a first pull if you don't have a sub-zero freezer for precip?

okay, impatient little bugger that he is, he added 100ml more water, but he didn't basify the water first. will this affect the solution: the fact that pure water was introduced later? he sincerely hopes he didn't totally bungle his first attempt at this.