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DoctorMantus
#1 Posted : 1/23/2011 11:19:03 PM

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I have actually heard that before you transfer your cultivated jars to your terrarium you can freeze it to somehow speed up the fruiting process if any one has answers like how long you would keep in freezer or anything like that.
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#2 Posted : 1/23/2011 11:40:31 PM

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a drop of around 5-10C will be a sign to trigger fruiting, though I'm not sure if freezing would be the best method. As fruits are mostly water I can't see how freezing is going to aid in growth as all water will cease to flow.

I see no reason to speed the process myself. As long as your jars are fully colonized and are then placed into good conditions for pinning/growth, you should have yourself some good fruits.
 
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#3 Posted : 1/24/2011 12:01:54 AM

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hey mantus
i think u're confusing fridge with freezer. i wouldn't recommend freezing it since that will most likely result in something unexpected. To initiate pinning, a 10-20F drop in temp is plenty, since this signals the myc that temps are bcoming unsuitable, and thus it must sporulate faster in order to reproduce.
for this, all u need to do is once ur cake is fully colonized, dunk it in some water (make sure its submerged, but not pressed hard against any surface) for anywhere from 12-24hrs in the fridge right before fruiting. then, repeat after every flush.

freezing is used only to store myc cultures for longer periods (months/years), and can be done via agar, LC, etc. but this too needs to be done with a slow drop in the temp. This is because when the myc senses a drop in temps, it starts secreting out its water so that it doesnt freeze to death. Slower temp drop will help in this; otherwise, the water will crystallize inside the myc cell walls, and it will soon meet its creator
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#4 Posted : 1/24/2011 12:13:28 AM

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Ok thanks a lot guys that helps a lot since my jars are maybe 2-3 days to being fully cultivated im glad i asked before making the mistake of throwing them in the freezer. i Have another quick question has anyone tried out what it called the mycodome im sure someone has tried it i have considered getting it but not sure if its worth the buy.
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#5 Posted : 1/24/2011 12:30:56 AM

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Phantastica wrote:
hey mantus
i think u're confusing fridge with freezer. i wouldn't recommend freezing it since that will most likely result in something unexpected. To initiate pinning, a 10-20F drop in temp is plenty, since this signals the myc that temps are bcoming unsuitable, and thus it must sporulate faster in order to reproduce.
for this, all u need to do is once ur cake is fully colonized, dunk it in some water (make sure its submerged, but not pressed hard against any surface) for anywhere from 12-24hrs in the fridge right before fruiting. then, repeat after every flush.

freezing is used only to store myc cultures for longer periods (months/years), and can be done via agar, LC, etc. but this too needs to be done with a slow drop in the temp. This is because when the myc senses a drop in temps, it starts secreting out its water so that it doesnt freeze to death. Slower temp drop will help in this; otherwise, the water will crystallize inside the myc cell walls, and it will soon meet its creator


Now when Dunked in Water doesnt have to be cold or anything could just be tap water or bottled water, And During this process i know when fruiting and growing off the cake the mushrooms will begin to decrease as the patty looses its water and nutrients does this process give the patty the ability to grow more mushrooms or does it just help the fruiting process.
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#6 Posted : 1/24/2011 3:18:53 PM

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Hy..
I guess you're talking about Cubensis?

The change in temperature,humidity and fresh air,
when you introduce the cultures to their new
environment (fruiting chamber),
adequate triggers the mycelium to produce
fruitbodies in 6to14 days.

AND
fridges are also known to be polluted with
nasty kinds of contams,you shurely dont
want that on your substrate!

Cold shocking is only neccesary for
stubborn strain-fruiting not for cubes or panaeoli.
Wink

DoctorMantus wrote:

Now when Dunked in Water doesnt have to be cold or anything could just be tap water or bottled water,
Water must be clean,
does'nt matter if you use
tap,boiled or bottled water as long as its clean and not hot yet.

DoctorMantus wrote:

And During this process i know when fruiting and growing off the cake the mushrooms will begin to decrease as the patty looses its water and nutrients does this process give the patty the ability to grow more mushrooms or does it just help the fruiting process.
It slightly increases the size of the fruitbodies,indeed:
ricecakes dont rehydrate very well..

A piece advice:
get rid of the PF-tek,if you really want the full growth potential
off your strains,try good sized Casings.
Wink



Here's one of my non cold-tortured favs,
Ps.Cubensis Thai:



HAI!



GROW ON!
µcophilic greeting




 
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#7 Posted : 1/24/2011 5:50:00 PM

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thanks a lot for clarifying my last two questions and awesome thai cubensis.
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