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'Coatl
#1 Posted : 10/4/2008 2:03:09 AM

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The Temple accepts all people, all races, sexes and Homo sapiens of every type, as long as they are over 17 years of age.


Our Mission at Temple Earth-

To promote a return to a simpler, more spiritual life in harmony with the enviroment and natural world.
To promote the cultivation and spread of ethnobotanicals and their use as medicines, foods and entheogens.
To cultivate ethnobotanicals of all types, study their uses and encourage futher research.
To enrich the soil and purify the water and air. To protect the enviroment.
To promote the control of population and illness through non-violent methods.
To promote a return to communal, logical and more sensible systems of society.
To promote the use and cultivation of ethnobotanicals as a means of spirtuaility and enjoyment.
To promote equailty among the sexes, races and all members of the species "sapiens" of the genus "Homo".
To promote peace among all of humanity. To promote non-voilence among Homo sapiens.
To promote eviromental resortation and preservation.
To create a community which is a model for decent human culture.





Shamanic Tools-

Stainless Steel Pots (For brewing) [3-5]
Edible Lime (For quids or chews)
Jars, Tins, Boxes and Bags (For storage)
Pipes, Bongs, Water Pipes, etc.
Rolling Papers, Filters, Rolling Machine
Tweezers
Razer blades
Fire
Hand-Grinders
Scales ( .1g)
Mortar and Pestal
Shot Glass
Special Cups (For drinking ethnobotanical brews)
Metal Cigarette Case
Pure Drinkable Alcohol 95% (For extractions)
Strainers of all sorts and sizes (including cheese cloth)
Drying Rack and/or Dehydrator
“Infuser” French Press and/or Tea Pot
“Pint Glasses” Beer and Wine/Spirit Glasses
Washable Heavy Duty Machine Grinder
Intent focusing objects- crystals, rocks, gems, wands, rare/powerful plants or dried botanicals, etc.
Smudging Herbs- Sage (Salvia species),
Crystal Skulls
An Alter
Feathers
Gems and such
Burner diffuser, copal burner
Cohoba platter and blow pipe
Duho/ Dujo sacred Chieftains stool

Holy Insense-

Commiphora myrrha ~ "Myrrh"
Boswellia sacra ~ "Frankincense"
Styrax benzoin ~ "Benzoin resin"
Bursera microphylla ~ "Copal"
Pogostemon cablin ~ "Patchouli"
Dracaena draco ~ "Dragon's Blood"

Aromatic Woods-

Bursera graveolens ~ "Palo Santo"
Santalum album ~ "Sandalwood"

Psychoactive insense-

Peganum harmala ~ "Syrian Rue"

Smudging herbs-
sagebrush (Artemisia species)
cedar branches (Thuja species)
Sweetgrass
sage (salvia spp.)





Sacramental Ethnobotanicals-

Tabernanthe iboga ~ “Iboga”
Banisteriopsis caapi ~ “Vine of the Souls” or “Ayahuasca”
Psychotria viridis ~ “Chacruna” or “Ayahuasca”
Diplopterys cabrerana ~ “Chaliponga” or “Ayahuasca
Lophophora williamsii ~ “Peyote”
Trichocereus spp. ~ “San Pedro”
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”
Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”
Salvia Divinorum ~ "Pipilzintzintli"
Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”



Sacramental Ethnobotanicals (Extended Verison)-

Tabernanthe iboga ~ “Iboga”
Banisteriopsis caapi ~ “Vine of the Souls” or “Ayahuasca”
Psychotria viridis ~ “Chacruna” or “Ayahuasca”
Diplopterys cabrerana ~ “Chaliponga” or “Ayahuasca
Trichocereus spp. ~ “San Pedro”
Lophophora williamsii ~ “Peyote”
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”
Ipomoea violacea ~ “Tlitliltzin”
Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”
Argyreia nervosa ~ “Woodrose”
Salvia Divinorum ~ "Pipilzintzintli"
Heimia salicifolia and Heimia myrtifolia ~ “Sinicuichi” or “Sun-Opener”
Mimosa hostilis ~ “Jurema”
Amanita muscaria ~ “Fly Agaric”
Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”
Nelumbo nucifera ~ “Scared Lotus”
Nymphaea caerulea ~ “Blue Lotus”
Nicotiana spp. ~ “Tobacco”
Silene capensis ~ “Root of the White Ways”
Piper methysticum ~ “Kava Kava”
Camellia sinensis ~ “Tea”
Erythroxylum spp. ~ “Coca Leaf”
Theobroma cacao ~ "Cocoa" or "Chocolate"






General Morals-


Sexual intercourse among children who have not under gone intation (age 17-19) is strongly discouraged, while other heterosexual behavior is accepted before age 17.
Children under 17 shall not ingest psychoactives of any form. Including sugar, caffeine and any and all chemicals and/or compounds, they shall only eat wholesome foods.
Nudity among those under 13 is completely acceptable, those who have reached purbity should modestly cover their gentiles.
Children under 13 are given no gender distinction, and should not be permitted to view or partake in sexual activities.
Spanking children is acceptable if they are under age 13, but beating a child is completely unacceptable.
Monogmy is encouraged and divorce is frowned upon. Adultery is unacceptable. Those who are over 17, but not married are free to do as they wish, but a couple who becomes pregant is considered married until the child has reached adulthood (17).
Strong sense of personal honor, respect for friends, family and community. Strong family structures.
Show commasion for all beings. Do not take pleas love dont hurt animals. Respect the enviroment.






Some Simple Beliefs-

1) The killing of Homo sapiens is the immoral.
2) All Homo sapiens are born equal, no matter their race, nor gender.
3) The planet Earth, the third planet from the Sun, is the home of all Homo sapiens. It is to be cherished and protected.
4) Entheogenic botanicals are a viable part of Homo sapiens spirituality, both streching into the past, and reaching into the future. Their cultivation and use for spiritual purposes may not be restricted.


Entheogens Advocated by the Temple must have a "yes" answer to the following Questions-

1) Does it come directly from organic botanical sources?
2) Does it have a long history of human use?
3) Does it's history of human use show that it is an effective entheogen?
4) Does it's history of human use show that it is relatively safe?


Ethnobotanicals Rights-

1) All living and dried botanicals shall remain legal to cultivate and possess. No unprocessed part of any botanical may be restricted by law. Botanicals in all their natural forms shall remain legal.
2) The religious/spiritual use of psychoactive botanicals shall remain legal to practice on private property, in a private church, temple, club or other organization or in one's home. The ingestion of intoxicating botanicals for religious/spiritual may not be restricted by law.

Society and Morals Concerning Psychoactives-

Blatant public intoxication is unaccectable.
Driving, operating machinery or performing other possibly dangerous acts while intoxicated is extremely unaccectable.
Never sell any Sacramental Ethnobotanicals nor give them away to any person who is not a member of the Temple.




Supported Spiritual Texts-

Taoist Texts- Tao Te' ching, Zhuangzi, and other associated writings
Christian Texts- The Bible (Gnostic "Banned" Text included), The Apocrypha, Nag Hammadi texts, Gnostic texts, Gospel of Mary, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Judas, Kebra Nagast,
Jewish Texts-Torah, Nevi'im, Ketuvim, The Talmud, Mishnah, Gemara
Islamic Texts- Qur'an, Hadith,
Buddhist Texts- Bon Kangyur, Bon Tengyur, Pali Canon, Tripitaka, Infinite Life Sutra, Amitabha Sutra, Contemplation Sutra, Vajra Cutter Sutra, Lotus Sutra, Mahavairocana Sutra, Vajrasekhara Sutra, Tibetan Book of the Dead and other associated writings
Hindu Texts- Rig Veda, Sama Veda, Yajur Veda, Atharva Veda, Brahmanas, Aranyakas, Upanishads, Itihasas, Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, Ramayana, Puranas, Bhagavata Purana, Stotras, Ashtavakra Gita, Gherand Samhita, Gita Govinda, Hatha Yoga Pradipika, Purva Mimamsa Sutras, Siddhanta Shikhamani, Brahma Sutras of Vyasa, Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, Nyaya Sutras of Gautama, Vaisheshika Sutras of Kanada, Vaikhanasa Samhitas, Pancaratra Samhitas, Sakta Tantras, Shiva Sutras, Pashupata Sutras of Lakulish, Panchartha-bhashya of Kaundinya (a commentary on the Pashupata Sutras),Ganakarika, Ratnatika of Bhasarvajna, Tirumurai, Meykandar Shastras, Brahma Samhita, Jayadeva's Gita Govinda, Krishna-karnamrita, Chaitanya Bhagavata, Chaitanya Charitamrita, Prema-bhakti-candrika, Hari-bhakti-vilasa, Poems of Dadu
Bahá'í Texts- Kitáb-i-Aqdas, Kitáb-i-Íqán and other associated writings
Druze Texts- Rasa'il al-hikmah (Epistles of Wisdom) and other associated writings
Hermetic Texts- Hermetica, Emerald Tablet and other associated writings
Jainist Texts- Angas, Upangas, Mula-sutras, Cheda-sutras, Culika-sutras, Prakirnakas, Karmaprabhrita (also called Satkhandagama), Kashayaprabhrita, Jina Vijaya, Tattvartha Sutra, GandhaHasti Mahabhashya
Mandaeistic Texts- Ginza Rba, Book of the Zodiac, Qolusta, Book of John the Baptizer, Diwan Abatur, 1012 Questions, Coronation of Shislam Rba, Baptism of Hibil Ziwa
Sikhist Texts- Guru Granth Sahib, Dasam Granth Sahib
Shinto Texts- Kojiki, Nihon Shoki (Also know as Nihongi)
Spiritist Texts- Book of Mediums, Gospel According to Spiritism, Heaven and Hell, Genesis According to Spiritism
Zoroastrianist Texts- Yasna, Visparad, Yashts, Vendidad and other associated writings




Church/Temple Postistions-

Preist/Preacher/Reverend/Minister/Nun/Monk/
Shaman- altered states, using mostly psychoactive botanicals to heal on a spiritual as well as physical level.
Astromoer/date setter/forture teller (keeps of the calander and such), Zodiac,
Witch-Doctor/Medinicine man/Healer/Mid-wife- Uses herbs and other psychoactive and non-psychoactive botanicals to heal, heals on physical and dietary level. Performs minor sugery, delivars babies and performs other tasks.


What Shamans Do-

Foretell the future
Heal the sick
Get information from the "Other-World"
Divine dreams
Travel to different planes of existance and through alternate dimensions
Channel energy
Trip sit
Calculate the moon calander and such

(more to come)





Holidays/Festivals-

Birth of Jesus Christ (Thought to be Late Sep. (30th?) 5 B.C.E. or possibly June 17th 2 B.C.E.)
Enlightenment of the Buddha
Good Friday/Easter (death and rising of christ)
All Hallows Eve & All Hallows Day (Celebrate the life and mourn the passing of all souls)
Earth Day (Enviromental Awareness)
Festival of Humanity (Mid-Spring, Huge Trip festival)
Thanksgiving
Fasting Holiday (deep meditation, etc.)
Leap Time (5 day period once every 4 years before the begining of the new year, a time of "no time", must forgive pay all depts and forgive all depters, etc.)
Winter Solstice- occurs some time between December 20 and December 23 each year in the northern hemisphere, and between June 20 and June 23 in the southern hemisphere.
Summer solstice- occurs some time between June 20 and June 23 each year in the northern hemisphere, and between December 20 and December 23 in the southern hemisphere. (New Year)
Equinox- occurring around March 20 and September 22 each year.




New Calander-

Implement new 13 moon (28 days in one "moonth", 24 hours in one day) calander- (every 4 years you have a "leap" of 5 days of "no time"Pleased

New year starts on the Summer solstice.


Homo sapiens-

Birth - 3 years old ~ Complete and total care

3 - 17 years old ~ Strict disiplin, Many chores and basic rigoureous education

17 - 19 years old ~ Relaxed disipin, few chores, education is geared towards indiduals personal interestes, entheogenic intation into adulthood. The are taught of philosophy, spirituality, logic, etc.

19- 57 years old ~ Hard work dedicated to ones life goals.

57 - Death ~ Returns to Relaxed life style, few chores and a life based around philosophy, spirituality, relaxing and guiding the younger ones.

After the person's entheogenic intation they are considered an adult, they must be at least 17 to began the path to adulthood.

Children are to be taken care of, as are the old and sick.



Standard Religous Practices-

Commuinion (taking of bread and wine as the body of Jesus Christ)

prayer (talking to God, both silently and out-loud)

Meditation (silet quiteing of the mind/emptying of the mind)

Entheogenic ceromony

singing/music/chanting/

Reading of Holy Scriptures

Absorb the stars, mists and moonlight (outdoor sokfg)



Entheogenic Ceromony-


Dress in strange costumes. Wear body paint.
Pretend your an animal of your choosing.
Fire dance.
Make Music with weird instruments. Listen to music.
Howl at the Moon
Meditate.
Spiritwalk- Walk through the wilderness at night
Lie in comfotable contemplation
Go hiking.
Look out over a beautiful landscape.
Write, paint or draw.

WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

"We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
 

STS is a community for people interested in growing, preserving and researching botanical species, particularly those with remarkable therapeutic and/or psychoactive properties.
 
'Coatl
#2 Posted : 10/4/2008 2:04:41 AM

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This is a real jumble of info right now... it will be edited.

http://forums.lycaeum.or...x.php/topic,25249.0.html
WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

"We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
 
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#3 Posted : 10/5/2008 3:57:11 PM

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i like where you are going with this
it's a sound
 
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#4 Posted : 10/5/2008 5:03:31 PM

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Thank you my good sir.

You can join the Peyoteway.org church (Visit their site, go to the FAQs and follow the instructions)

Or...

Just print out that paper, sign it, put it away in a safe place... and well that pretty much makes you a member of my church!

One day I'll have some land where we will have a farm, grow entheogens and hold services and retreats.

So everybody declare their entheogenic religion! And join up!!!

Join both the Peyote Way church AND my temple/church of entheogenic religion!
WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

"We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
 
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#5 Posted : 10/5/2008 8:42:40 PM

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This has already been done, essentially, by John Mann (known more commonly by his pseudonym Adam Gottlieb) who founded the Church of the Tree of Life.

The difficulty with this idea is that it won't actually provide any legal protection (in the USA), based on the supreme court ruling regarding União do Vegetal (UDV). There are several criteria necessary to legitimize the use of entheogens. First, the religion must be a recognized religion (which is pretty arbitrary, and seems to mostly be a matter of having a lot of members and having been around for many years). Second, the controlled substances being used as sacramens have to have a proven record of safety; this exists for ayahuasca (within the context of the south american branches of the ayahuasca churches), but would be mroe difficult to substantiate for our favored entheogens. Third, there must be very little risk of the sacraments being diverted outside of the church; this is why rastafarians have been unsuccessful claiming a religious defense for the use of cannabis (the US government considers it a high diversion risk, since people like to smoke cannabis recreationally)... that would certainly present a difficulty for coca and psilocybin mushrooms as well. The last point (which the court had not finalized their ruling on when I last checked) is that the church might be required to register with the DEA as a certified handler of the substances, and be subject to the same rules and regulations in terms of storage, recordkeeping, etc. that any certified labratory is held to.
 
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#6 Posted : 10/5/2008 9:46:35 PM

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I'm really glad you posted that and I'm not really trying to say "We declare this and it's now legal"... I'm more saying we should declare this BECAUSE it should be legal.

I would not argue for the legal use of coca or any botanicals that would be better considered an psychoactive rather than entheogen, there would be a list of supported botanicals for entheogenic use and those would be the only ones the church would advocate by name, BUT we would also advocate the use of ALL types of plants for healing... I know that's talking out both sides of my mouth, but ya gotta be screwy when you play those games. I dont actually plan for anybody to ever get caught doing this, lol.
WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

"We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
 
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#7 Posted : 10/14/2008 4:37:44 AM

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One would probably think that there are roughly 2 types of people who take what the mainstream calls "drugs"

1) those who just wanna get high and get fucked. These are the people who will go after all sorts of stimulants, weed for the sake of it and low doses of lsd or mushrooms. If they ever get too much of lsd or mushies they will simply consider that they got "too much fuuuucked", and "shite, that was horrible". These people just project the standard consumerist mentality. Gimme drugs, I give you money and then evaluate if I got enough bang for my money.

2) The other type of people are on the antipole and consider "drugs" as useful and powerful tools. They tend to "produce" the drugs they consume; whether it is some fungus, or some cactus, or some extracted and purified substance, or even weed. They tend to use "drugs" wisely, approach them safely and tend to ascribe a sacramental quality to them.




EXACTLY! This is why I want botanicals legal but extracted and prepared drugs illegal, if you know how to grow it and prepare you can do that safely in your own home, but the sale of prepared drugs would be illegal.

WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

"We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
 
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#8 Posted : 10/14/2008 12:35:18 PM

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Hey 'Coatl,

i like your idea too count me in Smile

shame about all the no-so-positive comments on the lycaeum forums
 
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#9 Posted : 10/14/2008 12:50:23 PM

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yeah.. selling stuff is so stupid.. i never do it.. enlightenment is given for free to good friends or persons who i think might need help of the other.
I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees. I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues. And I'm asking you, sir, at the top if my lungs.. (all posts are fictional and are intended for entertainment purpose only)
 
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#10 Posted : 10/14/2008 2:07:46 PM
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In many (western) western countries, ayahuasca is legal and it's use falls under religious freedom. I also believe there is a church in NY that uses DPT as a sacrament, legally.
I think that in many counries there actually is a chance of succeeding (but the US and france are notorious narco-paranoïd) but, then you would have to narrow the list of entheogens down. You cannot just use any substance and say; "yo, it's a religious thing man". certainly for coca and opiates this is not very credible.
Split-ups of a native-american chrurch, using peyote, psilo's or ayahuasca áre credible, though.
I would say that for many, if not the majority of people on this forum, the use of spice is part of a philosophical and maybe religious attitude. Often is spoken about 'hyperspace' and 'elfs'. Opinions vary on whether they are PHYSICLY real, but at least they're an essential part in most people's system of belief, here. I would say that the principle of religious freedom must certainly aply as well to any philosophical system, whether the philosophical system has religious traits or not. For , for instance budhism, it is both arguable that it is a religious as well as a non-religious philosophy. The lines are not THAT clear. This would hold up in court in almost any western country, although in the US i figure that it matters what state you live in.(there are also countries unfortunately, where you would even be sentenced, just mentioning the very idea of religious freedom, let alone that of santo-daime like movements).
If you would want this plan to stand any chance, it would need a little polishing here and there, but the core is much more credible than you think.
 
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#11 Posted : 10/15/2008 3:43:52 AM

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Thanks for the support guys!

Any more comments?

WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

"We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
 
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#12 Posted : 10/15/2008 5:02:42 AM

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Anyone remeber the pope of dope in nyc?
I belonged to his church,back in the nineties.Unfortunately he attracted too much attention but in mid may in nyc there is the pot parade.The parade starts in washington square park and marches up 5th ave to central park which is where the massive smoke-in occurs.There are police officers that escort the parade and you can smoke FATTIES,right in front of them without any recourse.It used to be pretty cool,althoug some un-peaceful smokers changed the good vibe over the years. I dont go anymore.
" Freedom from the desire for an answer is essential to the understanding of a problem." - jiddu Krishnamurti
 
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#13 Posted : 10/30/2008 5:55:47 PM

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The Temple accepts all people, all races, sexes and Homo sapiens of every type, as long as they are over 17 years of age.

The Temple Advocates-

A return to communal, logical and more sensible systems of society.

The use of botanicals as a means of spirtuaility, enjoyment, enlightenment and happiness.

Equailty among sexes, races and all members of the species "sapiens" of genus "Homo".

Peace among all of humanity. Non-voilence among Homo sapiens.

Eviromental resortation and preservation.


Some Simple Beliefs-

1) The killing of Homo sapiens is the immoral.

2) All Homo sapiens are born equal, no matter their race, nor gender.

3) The planet Earth, the third planet from the Sun, is the home of all Homo sapiens. It is to be cherished and protected.

4) Entheogenic botanicals are a viable part of Homo sapiens spirituality, both streching into the past, and reaching into the future.


Ethnobotanicals Rights-

1) All living and dried botanicals shall remain legal to cultivate and possess. No unprocessed part of any botanicals may be restricted by law.

2) The spiritual use of psychoactive botanicals shall remain legal to practice on private property, in a private church, temple, club or other organization or in one's home.


Come one come all!

Help save the Lophophora "Peyote" and Astrophytum!!!

Join Peyote Way!!!

Become a member at Erowid!

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#14 Posted : 11/7/2008 4:58:30 AM

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Sure, many synthetic drugs are harmful and addictive, but there are practical reasons for their legalization. Politics, the economy, and basic human rights. Many people have also had profound spiritual experiences with synthetic drugs like LSD, DXM, and 2-CB to name a few.

I know it may not figure directly into the specific guidelines of your religion, but I can't see why substances that may be useful to another's spiritual practice should be classified as nothing more than prescription medication.

Aside from that, I wish you godspeed.
 
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#15 Posted : 11/7/2008 5:42:08 AM

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I will make this as simple as possible... so it doesnt cause arguement as it did on the other forums.

I believe that a human being should be able to take any substance into their body that they choose as long as it does not harm other, directly or indirectly. That is my belief for society.

But my belief for my religion, for my Temple is that only a select few botanicals which we believe were sent directly from God to man, and are very safe are used.

Entheogens Advocated by the Temple must have a "yes" answer to the following Questions-


1) Does it come directly from organic botanical sources?

2) Does it have a long history of human use?

3) Does it's history of human use show that it is an effective entheogen?

4) Does it's history of human use show that it is relatively safe?


Supported Botanicals- (There is another extended list of botanicals for members only)

Tabernanthe iboga ~ “Iboga”
Banisteriopsis caapi ~ “Vine of the Souls” or “Ayahuasca”
Psychotria viridis ~ “Chacruna” or “Ayahuasca”
Diplopterys cabrerana ~ “Chaliponga” or “Ayahuasca
Lophophora williamsii ~ “Peyote”
Trichocereus spp. ~ “San Pedro”
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”
Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”
Salvia Divinorum ~ "Pipilzintzintli"
Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”




WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

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#16 Posted : 11/7/2008 1:48:40 PM

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i say if scientology can call themselves a church - so can we! i also like where you're taking this coatl. i'd be joining if it were to be used in court or not. all religions started some day. scientology for example was founded in the 50s. thats not really that long ago. and seeing that more and more people start gaining interest in the psychedelic experience i guess its a good thing to start this thing as soon as possible! what will they do if they're outnumbered? Pleased

i think that it is a birthright to do whatever one wants with ones life. maybe one should go and take pictures of alcoholics vs. pictures of psychedelic journeymen and make a nice picturebook of it. alcohol is a thing with which the government makes A LOT of money! that's another reason why they don't want people taking ayahuasca. it cleanses alcoholics of their bad habits.(at least it will if they're willing to work with it)
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#17 Posted : 11/7/2008 1:57:53 PM

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gee, 'Coatl, can you please not make so long threads organised in such a list-type way? I presume that you write about lots of interesting information, but your format is just distracting and it is impossible for me to read them. It would be nice to make them more user friendly so they are readable.

Plain text format is certainly not the best format for conveying such lengthy information. You could format text pretty nicely in Word or Powerpoint and attach them?


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#18 Posted : 11/7/2008 7:52:21 PM
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I also like the thought behind al this. Still there is something about the whole thing, referring to religious freedom that sort of bothers me; that you would have to proof that it's a religious thing, and then you end up discussing what the criteria are to call something a religion or not. And this would implie that whenever you have certain ideas about life, that are supposed to give meaning, or whenever you'd be just looking for meaning, that when your search or convictions are of a religious nature, these ideas are more legitimate then if your ideas are more secular. I would want to emphasize that all ideas of any philosophical nature, religious or not, are legitimate. Otherwise, in a way, non-religious people would be discriminated by the freedom of religion.
I also think that if you would emphasize that 1-first philosophical ideas must fall under religious freedom as much as any religious idea and 2-the use of entheogens for exploration of the mind falls under a philosophical practice, the initiative has a bigger chance to succeed.
It's easyer to prove that the use of entheogens is of a philosophical nature, then it is to proof a religious context.
 
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#19 Posted : 11/7/2008 8:25:52 PM

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I still say - as I did on the Lycaeum - that the issue is not one of spirituality but the basic human right of a person to do with their body and mind what they will as long as it harms no one else, and that introducing a "church" only confuses the issue with a debate about what constitutes a legitimate church or religion.
It would be disingenuous of me to join such a church that I have no belief in simply to legally use psychedelics.
Our argument is more akin to gay rights than religious freedom. We engage in behavior that is beyond the mainstream and considered immoral by many in the mainstream and that is potentially risky to ourselves but harms no one else. As such, we have just as much right to engage in it as we do to love and have sex with whoever we want.
It's simply a life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness argument.

 
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#20 Posted : 11/7/2008 11:57:12 PM

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It would be disingenuous of me to join such a church that I have no belief in simply to legally use psychedelics.


Your certainly correct in that, the Temple does not advocate the use of drugs like heroin or meth, we do however advocate freedom, and I think that includes the right to ingest what-so-ever you choose. I also believe you should be freeto be a Nazi (or whatever) if you want to be... but do I think that should be? Hell no.

Understand?

So...

Temple = Botanicals Only

Society = Freedom of Choice (concering the ingestions of substances)


Quote:
Our argument is more akin to gay rights than religious freedom. We engage in behavior that is beyond the mainstream and considered immoral by many in the mainstream and that is potentially risky to ourselves but harms no one else. As such, we have just as much right to engage in it as we do to love and have sex with whoever we want.
It's simply a life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness argument.


A very good point concerning society, but not my Temple. Botanical intoxicates only for the Temple.

Good post Noman.

Feel free to start a Church of Synthetics and Extracts... we will see which one of our churchs is accepted by the mainstream first. (Not trying to piss anybody off, just making a point)

Please understand this is the first step... Botanicals may be accepted because of their history, but for the moment things like LSD and MDMA probably won't be when compared to things like Ayahuasca and Peyote. Not even gonna touch on the man-made narcotics (meth, heroin, coke, etc.)...
WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

"We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
 
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