Apparently there has been a new product hit the market which is sold as a bath salt. As with the JWH/incense thing this is just a obvious cover to market these products. This new drug is supposedly much like a cocaine high. I found little information on it on the web it seems to be very new to the market. Has anyone had any experience with this drug.

Can't say I have, but what is it called?

EDIT: Asking purely for the sake of research, not planning on seeking it out ;

And why the hell hasn't modern science come up with a more widely available "fake" tryptamine?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Acetylpsilocin

???

MDPV is one, though it's just a stimulant with no anesthetic properties. Dimethocaine is another; this one I have tried. It is similar to coke though not quite as strong and with a slower onset.

Yes that's it.
SWIM has never tried coke but he receive some MDPV 2 weeks ago. The only reason he got it because it was in a RC-bundle and he saved like 35%.
He started taking it rectally because it is comparable to insuffilating (fast onset, shorter effects) and when kept under 1ml has absolutely minimal discomfort.
1mg was a slightly stimulated buzz, 2mg was more of the same, 4mg was a little jittery and almost uncomfortably stimulating.
6mg orally was like a strong cup of coffee but came on after 1 hour.

SWIM has never been anywhere closed to addicted to a substance and has uncommon effects to normally addicting substances buts some of the reports online report people going through a gram in a week because at the high doses it is addicting as crack.

If its really new (as of 18 jan 2011 the post was made) i doubt that Vovin reffers to methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV). This compound, in the fast (food) moving RC community is considered "old news". Are we sure its not a new wave of tropanes akin WIN 35428 ?

I was under the impression 'bath salts' were mephadrone.

I got a gram of mdpv for a friend of mine a few months back. He said it was better than coke. Snorting small amounts seemed to have him speeding for hours. Not a great comedown though. He ended up smoking the rest in a day (unknown amount, most likely several hundred milligrams). He said it was incredibly moreish and claimed that if it was on the street that he thought it woukd quickly replace crack AND Meth.

I have a small amount that I may get to one day just to try out but I'm not sure when. Uppers aren't my thing. Watch out people.

I also doubt it is mdpv since that has been on the market for a few years, also noone has made the comparision to coke either,

Anyway here is something anyone interested in peevee should read

http://www.bluelight.ru/....php?t=522311&page=7

It's all over where I live. If you take a tiny oral dose it's usually ok. Snorting it will DESTROY your nose though. Sub-lingual is fast but it tastes like shit and will give you sores.
It was made to replace Ritalin (about4x). There's white shit out there that's not pure and varies in potency. There is a legit source for the pure tan stuff.
It was never produced because it has a high dependency rate. I never had a problem. But if you chase it, you'll stay up days and then have the worst comedown ever. It's only going to be productive for cleaning, writing, something that doesn't involve focus. It's a pure stimulant, half and half with bars are popular here with the kandy kids.
It will be gone soon though, assholes are selling it as super=coke and drawing lines. Sending kids to the hospital and whatnot.

It is comparable to fake molley mixed with speed(which i've never done). You still loose inhibition but you'll look more retarded than confident.

A friend who usually never do stims was up 5days smoking this like crack, worst experience of his entire life

Yepp, and he had the worst comedown of his life and forevermore said "don't Fuuck with that shiit". I'm either lucky or marijuana/sleep is my cure all.

Good question, there's plenty of them: Tihkal

The "bath salts" are generally MDPV but are occasionally cathinones.

There are also "psychedelic bath salts" in some stores that are 5-MeO-DALT.

SWIM once designed a fully working 1-man submarine from scratch with the aid of MDPV quite powerful stuff but SWIM wouldnt use it many times in a row or chase it.

If someone can get the name of the product, I can probably figure out what it is exactly.

It might be 4-fluoromethcathinone, but maybe not. MDPV is another possibility, but not if this is a new product. It also depends on where this product is being sold. 4-fluoromethcathinone is already illegal in the UK.

Who knows. I stay well away from any straight stimulants nowadays.

There are many different brands in the USA and they almost all *are* MDPV.

A few smaller brands may be mephedrone or MDPV/mephedrone combo but the big name ones out right now are all stomped on MDPV.. (cloud 9, white girls, etc)

I was going to say Vovin a number of compounds similar to coke/mdma have been available on the market for some years.

Marketed as Bath salts or "Legal highs". It is the unfortunate reality of a situation where money centric folks are cashing in on little known compounds and presenting them to the general public.

At first they would have been sold as specific compounds with IUPAC names.
Then it gets weird and commercial.


This highlights a problem i have with the RC market where your average Joe Bloggs will buy some 'droogz' not fully understanding that not all compounds behave in the same way in relation to dose.

"i did a gram of mdma" is not uncommon... and thus "i did a gram of 9217312jkhj" is also not uncommon... that's where it gets "dangerous"
And is thus leverage for state control in the name of 'protection'

We know it aint that... and we know Darwins theory's are incredibly stubborn!

the rc market is a disaster. people having access to super cheap addicting stims is bad enough, but when they get marketed in brick and mortar stores as cocaine replacements you know stuff is going down hill. how can you possibly make an informed decision about drugs when you don't even know which drug you are taking? plus some people seem to think since these are quasi-legal they must be safe..