Found this thought I'd share it

I see the point and I agree to some of it, thanks for sharing.

Nevertheless I feel that to affirm with certainty that the world is ultimately meaningless is just as much speculation as giving any other unprovable idea (including Gods or whatever else). The weight falls on the shoulder of the one making the absolute affirmation to show absolute evidence, otherwise I would say better express humbleness, and point out what seems more likely or reasonable to oneself, giving evidence or arguments why...

There's too much people being too sure about what the universe and life is and is not, and that to me is the potential source to a lot of problems.

Life isn't meaningless. Try to burn your finger of with a match. If live is as void of meaning as you say it is, this should be easy. If on the other hand, life forces meaning upon itself, it would be almost impossible.
There may be no external reason. But that won't make the force of life's meaning, the sheer will to live, any less strong and convincing.

I know the meaning of life.

Find meaning.

Ah, but some modes of existentialism seek to overcome simple agreement or disagreement. The two often occur simultaneously (or not at all) and in as much within the the individual as reflective upon the extraneous. Anyway, something to ponder.



"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." Follow any concept to its ultimate logical conclusion in consideration of the ubiquitous lack of an infallible perspective, and the absolute absurdity of existence at large becomes practically incontestable--especially to the extent that any attempt to "prove" otherwise would be an exercise of absurdity in itself. In a sense, this position isn't drawing any actual conclusions in itself but simply negating all conclusions, effectively reinstating the question "why," dissatisfied with all prior conclusions--likely calling into question the possibility of future conclusions and the worthiness of the pursuit.

What's often overlooked is that existentialism goes well beyond nihilistic futility and void. The individual is free to assemble a philosophical arsenal by which one chisels out its own being and identity, unhindered by the neurosis of "truth" but rather in pursuit of a sort of self-honesty, taking the spirit in hand as a sort of artwork. Often the hope is to access the core and most rudimentary qualities of being--human and more than human, in a sense.

The results of this don't always follow the more common secular models and can even lean toward affirming the rigors of scientific method as much as against it, but they almost invariably utilize a heavy cynicism, bordering on or veering well into nihilism.



Existential thinkers often contest the validity of a "will to life." As in, the sense that life persists or is cut short regardless of any willing to do so and paradoxically in accordance with a higher common will, as much prone toward death as life--if not more so to the former.

In any case, good luck convincing anyone who truly feels that life is meaningless of its inherent purpose as you see it. Existentialism is a mode of thought for those who have come to that crossroads and simply will not be satisfied with arbitrarily divining a meaning out of the void as they must see it, and instead, they must think beyond those conceptions that consistently fail to assuage their condition.

Will to live is merely a possible and most likely translation of the mental reflexes that are innevitable. Just like there are physical reflexes that you could not surpress no matter how hard you tried, there are mental reflexes for wich the same aplies.
They are more complex in nature, and have a higher degree of flexibility. But in the end they rule your brain and your will. Therefore, our lives are embedded in a framework full of meaning.

In other words, living without meaning is simply impossible because it goes against the way our brain functions.
People may believe that they can liberate themselves from meaning, but close analysis will reveal an underlying framework of meaning anyway, even in how they view the world. Every coginitive proces is derived from elementary mental reflexes.

Even very disturbed souls as those of psychopath's have an elementary picture of meaning and of right and wrong.

Hi Ellis, You don't have children do you. It goes against Human Nature to create a life without meaning. Even the poorest Hindu in India has something to hope and struggle for even if it's for just one more meal. Find a purpose. Help the needy. Your life reaches beyond yourself, try to make a difference and you'll find meaning.
Peace

Existentialism, just like Reason, Science, Philosophy, and Religion, is just another name for god. Its not the name I choose to use, though. I think existentialists believe they are the sole creators of their reality, which when brought to its logical conclusion means that every existentialist commits suicide when they die. That outlook is too bleak for me.