iv been working with methylone alot lately.
iv been using it to reprogram my life - to become more usefull/functional.
so far - very good - very impressed.
its soft and it opens the heart chakra
i figured out the best re-x tek for it too - il post it if im allowed to.

in my eyes methylone is an entheogen - very usefull and it always has a place in my medicine cabinet.
combo'd with spice - omg its nice - no chance of anything but comfort - which extends possibilities alot.
id reccomend it as a predose for anyone suffering from fear of spice - also 5-meo-dalt helps to get over the fear as it provides a simmilar headspace - but no visuals.

In my experience, MDAI is absolutely nothing like MDMA at all. I found it quite dull and uninteresting personally, and won't be seeking it again. Methylone I found a tease. It never got to that amazing place that MDMA takes you too, more of a stimulant for me. I did once combine it with mephedrone which was a nice experience, MDMA is still preferable though. I would be careful with MDPV, I wouldn't touch it personally (or pretty much any of these things anymore, have definitely had my time with them) but I think it might be quite toxic actually.

A few months back, I had a few dabs of pure MDMA crystals, the first time I have in years. It was an amazing experience of warmth and connection, I had forgotten it could be that good. Put the newer contenders to shame.

I think the neurotoxicity of MDMA is related to level of use and dosage. A little spread over a few times a year is fine I think, this way I don't get any kind of hangover or comedown whatsoever.

A more recent study from 2009, by John Hopkins Medical School found that MDMA use could lead to sleep apnea in otherwise healthy young people. This is worrying as sleep apnea itself can lead to an assortment of other health problems.

http://www.asrn.org/jour...lead-to-sleep-apnea.html

That's because they started with the best few MDxx's and when they got banned, the RC vendors started with the second best, and when they got banned, they moved on and now the worst of them all are the only ones left.

They all have slightly different effects, but the major first generation XTC's wich where MDMA and MDEA, where high quality euphoriants. They lacked the depth and intensity of real psychedelic's but the euphoria they produced was absolutely pure and fantastic.

I find that a low dose of peyote, just below where it get's psychedelic, combined with a low dose of caapi produces an effect that's superiour to that of all those synth's though.

Peyote also contains an MDMA-like substance besides mescaline. If you're realy interested in XTC, isolating that substance may be an interesting thing to try.

5-Methyl-MDA seems to be next on the radar.

reading this thread makes MDMA sound really good right now

Oh no, not another one. Lets try it. lol. J/k.

I'd be careful with this MDAI stuff. A friend of mine said that its so serotogenic that people were re-dosing and instead of getting high again they just got serotonin syndrome.

As for Methylone, SWIMs been playing with this one lately. After reading trip reports of people rolling on the floor in euphoria he got real excited. After testing realized there wasn't much euphoria. Last time he got the shivers. Then got real cold, probably due to the vasoconstiction of the metabolites. Very moorish too, though not as bad as Mephedrone.



I also noticed this, although I wouldn't compare it to meth. This stuff is tricky but it needs more testing. Maybe good mixed with something like molly.



Thats probably true but it wouldn't surprise me if they stumble across something superior. There is alot of crap out there though.



That sounds like something to try. Never tried peyote though. Would San Pedro or peruvian be the same?

Eye would say mdai falls very short of mdma and/or bk-mdma. Eye can dose with 300mg of mdai and barely reach the effects of 75mg of bk-mdma. Eye'm not so certain Eye've tried pure mdma, but what Eye was given blew bk-mdma out of the water. Eye can take a high dose of bk-mdma and never get close to what a small amount of mdma did to Eye.

mdai feels nothing like bk-mdma or mdma. mdai requires a very large dose to even come close to an E experience. So, Eye don't think you were given mdai.

bk comes close to mdma, and is in the right dose range, 100-200mg, so bk or some other phen seems more plausible.

Enough of the RC talk guys, this is the nexus, not bluelight.

Locking thread.

Sorry.