Well this is the 2nd batch I've ever come across. The first was freebase and I lit up 30mg + or so on several occasions. My body became mush, objects in the world didn't seem so "permanent" anymore, and I was getting intense auditory hallucinations. CEV were also present, but nothing different then a strong marijuana high. A year later I decide to come across on some changa, a 1:1 ratio with B. caapi, and I'm getting the same effects. Why can't I break through? I've yet to even see the kaleidoscope patterns that are often discussed, what am I doing wrong?

I would bet its your smoking method... Check the FAQ (and the question above that one). If you can spend money on a vaporgenie and a torch lighter, its highly recommended..

^^ agreed
how were you smoking the freebase, and the changa, how much of that are you smoking? Im surprised you arent getting much even with changa(which is foolproof to smoke with a bong)

Also somthing that comes to mind, you say that you came across this batch, are you getting it from some dealer? I bet if you extracted it yourself you would get better results.

If all else fails, SMOALK MOAR CHANGA!!

Yeah sorry I extracted it myself.. painstakingly.

I just grabbed a little chunk of the leaf and threw it in my pipe. I'm using a bic lighter but I can't really afford a torch lighter or a full bong so I'm doing the best I can. Should I crush the leaf to a finer consistency, would that help at all?

For sure

Hold on, you DID extract it yourself?

If that changa is truly 1:1 then i am baffled!
A lungful of changa sends my mind flying, a bic lighter & a pipe should be fine (although vape pipe is preferable)

What did your DMT look like? What extraction tek did you use?

Yeah it's 1:1.

It came out a nice yellow color and I infused it with Caapi. Also made a batch with some super super orange shit that I've yet to try. I can't think what the problem is, maybe I'm just smoking it like a pussy, all I can think of :shrug:

Also, after the last bowl I got frustrated and went to dump it out because it was all ash and some orange oil came out with it, which I assumed was probably the actual dmt. Maybe I was just getting trace amounts of dmt smoke and not fully vaporizing it?

If your doubting your smoking enough then maybe
A small pinch of 1:1 taken in sucessive tokes should definitely cause CEV's in my experience

You should have crushed the leaf to smoking consistency before you infused it. This way there is more area for the dmt to infuse into. Did you have much DMT left on the evap dish that you made the changa in?

Also dude, what sort of contraption are you using to smoke it?

And, no need for a torch lighter.

Hmm I didn't think to crush it up beforehand. There was some green sludge left on the evaporation dish, at least for the yellow crystal dish. I'm just using a long stem pipe. I hope I didn't fuck anything up, I cleaned up that evap dish already.

Prolly just some chlorophyl and maybe some spice.

Dude here's what you can do, chop up all the changa to smoking consitency, if you have a scale weight out 1 pile of 50mg changa, and say 3 piles of 75mg changa. Smoke the first 50mg pile(1 slow long pull to fill the lungs) hold it for as long as possible. While holding it in load up one of the 75mg piles ready to smoke next. Hold the second pull like the first, sit back and ..... if you arent where you want to be in say about 1-2min of smoking the bowl, smoke another 75mg pile and so on.

The beauty of caapi is that you can do it this way, no need to stress about tollerance building up. Take your time and smoke it up till you get to where it is you want to be.

Also report back afterwards please

Make sure you hold your hits in as long as possible.

I'll give it another try maybe tonight or tomorrow morning, I'm exhausted from my 3 failed attempts.

Has there been any reports about chlorophyl ? As I remember, green is usually from the rust inhibitor in the naptha.

pfxtc: Tell more about your extraction. Which solvent did you use ?

@people: "It's green" & "Smoalk moar". No go.

I just assumed the green to be crap that the alcohol washed off of the Caapi leaves and stuck to the plate. I did a standard STB. 99% i. alcohol was used as the final solvent.

I always get some chlorophyl when using caapi or chali leaf. ipa/acetone/naptha all pull the chlorophyl IME.

I hope you arent using naptha with green rust inhibitor, I hope mine has none in it

Here's a pic of some changa and chlorophyl, or rust inhibitor

pfxtc: Did the green appear in the STB evaporation or after making changa ?

gammagore: I apologize. I though we were talking about green product after evaporating the STB product. Thanks for the picture.

Yeah mine looks exactly like his picture. I'm dumb but not dumb enough to use the wrong kinda chemicals. And it had that same consistency.. gotta be my smoking technique.

Sounds like bad smoking method or not smoking enough. It took me like 8 tries to breakthrough but even in my first failed attempts I had tons of open eyed visuals.. not comparable to cannabis at all.. more like a handful of mushrooms..