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benzyme
#1 Posted : 12/11/2010 6:26:18 PM

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MeOH.jpg (20kb) downloaded 1,816 time(s).
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#2 Posted : 12/11/2010 7:41:06 PM

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nice..so it is 4-po-dmt? or maybe a mixture of 4-ho-dmt and 4-po-dmt?
 
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#3 Posted : 12/11/2010 7:59:27 PM

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probably mostly 4-PO. came from 10 g dried aborts
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#4 Posted : 12/11/2010 8:09:50 PM

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Wow! How much you think that is ?




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#5 Posted : 12/11/2010 9:48:25 PM

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tough to say....


very active, though Wink
yeah, the pic was taken with a phone camera

sonicate, filter, rotavap.
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#6 Posted : 12/11/2010 10:20:32 PM

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Are you sayin this is psilocybin extracted from shrooms?

If so then lookin good Smile
And looks like ALOT from only 10gr.
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#7 Posted : 12/11/2010 10:31:27 PM

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it only looks like a lot because it was spun fast.
it's really just a thin layer coating the flask
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#8 Posted : 12/13/2010 5:27:38 AM

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Looks like a good use of sonication and your rotoevap. Makes me want to grow fungus and experiment with it!
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Good stuff!!!

But sure it can't all be psilocybin, methanol would extract plenty of sugars, wouldn't it?

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#10 Posted : 12/13/2010 2:20:03 PM

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and proteins, which is probably what the green goo is that people get.
got some of that too, it was just separated out by the centrifugal force

i'd conservatively estimate 40% - 45% psilocybin. experiments with re-x are in order

nevertheless, it seems alcoholic extractions are the way to go, to preserve the activity. A/B seems to render product inactive by altering the charge state of the OH, which is ever-susceptible to oxidation.
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#11 Posted : 12/13/2010 5:34:21 PM

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After an alcohol extraction, does it need to be stored in the dark, if left in solution? Looks awesome, btw!
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#12 Posted : 12/13/2010 6:02:22 PM

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thanks
you know, i'm not exactly sure. since it's most likely psilocybin, which is stable unlike the more photosensitive psilocin, i don't think any extra storage measures need to be taken. can probably get away with storing it in a clear container at room temp, and it will still keep its activity.
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#13 Posted : 12/13/2010 6:05:16 PM

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hmm, perhaps adding citric acid to convert to psilocin was a poor idea. :-S thank you for the thoughts.
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#14 Posted : 12/13/2010 6:26:30 PM

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well, the addition of a weak acid may not be detrimental to the activity...it's adding base
that might muck it up
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#15 Posted : 1/1/2011 7:42:01 AM

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Benzyme - What was your final yield and how did it perform? What are the similarities and differences to ingesting the raw fungus? Is it smokable? Would you be willing to write up a tek that is duplicatible by your average, ordinary kitchen clod?
 
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Many years ago SWIMMED performed simple methanol extraction on about 4 g dried mushrooms. Filtered dried thats it. Stored it for months upon months in the fridge. One day SWIM took it in some tea. SWIM was wrecked. Crawling on the floor wrecked.
 
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#17 Posted : 1/1/2011 3:57:23 PM

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Uncle Knucles wrote:
Benzyme - What was your final yield and how did it perform? What are the similarities and differences to ingesting the raw fungus? Is it smokable? Would you be willing to write up a tek that is duplicatible by your average, ordinary kitchen clod?

don't know what the yield was, I didn't weigh it.
the off-white product clung to the side of the flask. not sure if it was smokable either.
it was much, much less material to consume than the raw fungus, but the effects were identical to psilocybin. had some nausea
onset was about 15 minutes, effects lasted about 3 - 4 hrs, with 5 hr afterglow.

the basic approach is grinding dry mushrooms and soaking in alcohol. this is allowed to sit in the freezer for a few day, then transferred to room temp. this may be cycled (optional). then, heat the slurry in a 40 C water bath for half an hour. filter, and evap
(if possible, use reduced pressure).

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One day SWIM took it in some tea. SWIM was wrecked. Crawling on the floor wrecked.


yeah
the extract is incredibly potent, very concentrated magic.
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Wow! Very cool benzyme, im very jealous Smile
 
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sweet peaches, you got the goods!

How does the nausea compare to dried fruits?

If you have done an ethanol extraction: Is there much benefit over an ethanol "elixir" other than having it as a powder (although, I understand that itself would be huge awesomeness)

Is it less nausea than ethanol elixir?

Did the product stay dry or go goo?


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#20 Posted : 2/17/2011 5:33:58 AM

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tbh, the nausea was identical because it was so potent; it wasn't ghastly to consume
it ended up being a waxy consistency, difficult to remove from the sides of the flask.
a hot tea was prepared and added to the flask with heavy cream, then imbibed.
heavy nausea followed by purging and visuals occurred about 20 mins later
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