Here's the article. I would assume that this is a continuation of the earlier ayahuasca-related arrests surrounding the particular chapter of Santo Daime, iirc, which nabbed their leader and someone else. The article references 50 liters of DMT-containing liquid. This is very troubling, imo, and I hope it doesn't signal more interference to come against legitimate religious use.

I thought england was a bit more modern than this. Also the idea that a police unit 'set up to tackle serious organised crime' is keeping itself busy with this....I thought england was high on al-quaida's list. You'd think those kind of things would deserve a little higher priority than people who drink ayahuasca. Next time some bomb-car explodes at a british airport, we know it could have happened because the police was too busy writing parking tickets and chasing hippies.

My opinion is that the cops don't often want to chase the people who actually shoot at them. It is much easier to get their quota of arrests chasing after the people who will less likely shoot at them. As long as they get felony arrests, they still get the feather in their cap.

Fantastic.

I'm so proud we are by protected from these evil people.

Yup.

Indeed.I know of some folk who were extremely good police officers. Practical and understanding.Really believed they could make a difference to the community by service.

HA! Did they wake up with a thud!

"You're not paid to think - you're paid to follow orders" was the flavour of the day. And there they were, thinking they were being paid to serve their fellow man.

When the job eventually collided with their consciences, their consciences won.

Maybe they should have stayed, tried to make a difference, I don't know.

But the "victim" of drug offences - the "statute" ??? Come on!

A crime against an idea. Interesting thought.

I really don't have an immediate answer, although Olympus Mons' amazing and deepfelt experiences in another post on forgiveness is an encouraging and optimistic move forward. I'm still absorbing those teachings. It's a great way to go forward.

Quite a few people who oppose drugs expect "drug users" to be less than human, although that depersonalisation takes place in their mind and depersonalises a part of them, not the target of their displacement. Well it's up to people to show by example that is not the case.

Perhaps forgiveness is one way of healing those folk from their own minds turning on a part of themselves, maybe preventing them going after people who remind them of their (self inflicted) pain.

As a "thought virus", it doesn't have to be negative, as an "infectious laugh" demonstrates.

I've mentioned once or twice "where attention goes, energy flows", as a favourite saying.

Let's "go there first" and set up some hidden positive vibes for healing. How? Just think it. When enough of us do it, change has to happen for the better.

What else can we do?

peace and love, happiness and all thats good.

trancenut

I've always been curious how they prosecute these things. Arguably, every man, woman and child is a "DMT containing fluid", currently and always in violation of the law. Has anyone given a thorough defense yet? One could argue that the law is invalid because it does not specify the difference between an artificial and natural "DMT containing fluid"....as the natural one goes unprosecuted 100% of the time. Without defining the difference, the law is incomplete, no?

My point is, does the legal system yet know that DMT is in just about every living thing on earth?

DMT is dangerous? If they care about things being dangerous we would not be in this situation, so i consider this Terrorism.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the Govt & the police force have no interest in the safety of people.
This can be vindicated by such things as David Nutt's being sacked for his scientific based conclusions on drug safety.

This article also highlights the reality of the situation we face.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blo...v_science_yet_again.html

Fact is there has been a systematic eradication of all legal drug use outside of the pharmaceutical arena and the highly prized cash cows that we know as fags and booze. Which we all know are two of the most dangerous aspects of modern life!

As i said clearly public saftey is NOT a concern.

When you think about it, they have actually banned every drug that has within the nature of its experience a mind opening consciousness expanding, authority questioning, paradigm shifting effect.

When people speak of the dumbing down of people with junk food, trash TV and Circus media they are often laughed at and lampooned as stupid conspiracy theorists.

I feel like drug policy is one issue that is undeniable proof of this.

We should take this very fucking seriously. I personally feel like the issue goes far deeper then drug reform. For this reason i don't expect to see drug policy changing any time soon.

Wake up middle England you are being taken for the ride, the people running the ship clearly see us as nothing but free-range cattle, and when something as powerfully awakening and culturally shifting as psychedelics come into the equation they are quick to spread more lies and install the fear of Life in prison as a control mechanism.

We need to Unite and Stand fast and Speak Loudly that we will not take it any more.
The Govt are to serve the people not the other way around.

you have a point my friend. The psychedelic community has been in a state of "lets all play nice and quiet and make no mistakes". The cognitive/psycho/spiritual freedom of our species may be at stake. maybe we should start talking eh?

Maybe just by trying to inform loved ones and friends who aren't into it. Explain our reasons for using them, what we get, the risks we've taken, what we've learned. I hope that by spreading correct knowledge we could heal the situation. Confrontation at this stage isn't gonna work well, there is simply too much resistance.

It's funny, really. Governments allow bio toxins produced from genetically modified e.coli bacteria into the food chain. It's Aspartame, and I just found a web site www.aspartame.com full of info on the harm it causes, even that it was used in ww2 as a nerve agent.

On the other hand, thinkgs like Caesium Chloride and heat treatment, which have both had amazing results for halting cancer, are treated in the same manner as DMT.

Not sure of specific web sites, but try googling in " Steve McQueen Cesium Chloride Cancer Cure", and "Ronald Regan, illegal cancer cure".

Makes you ... er think, among other things.

Shades of RAW's Prometheus Rising somewhere there.

Now, if there's a way to increase DMT receptivity at zero tolerance in the brain by hypnosis, brainwave entrainment, meditation etc. and have the body produce it in the right amounts at the right time ....

Anyone heard of any research on this? Or would that be inviting a war on hypnosis, etc...?



Does my pineal gland (according to rick strassman) know it's illegal?

But, peace and love and happiness and all things good - to everyone. Yes, EVERYONE!