Would it work? I mean...would it work for the 5meo?

YES it will work.

oh really...wouldnt happen to know the dosage??

That's most interesting!

Oh yes lad. ILPT suggest: you have to chew about 80-90 grms of diplopterys cabrerana fresh leaves.

It's interesting to hear that it would work...but does one really need 80gs? That would be a pretty expensive way to consume 5meo.

80 grams sounds like a lot. I've heard 5-10 grams is the proper amount.

Virola theiodora resin is much more economical and active sublingually at about 120 mg. Find a good supplier. The good resin out there works very well and is much cheaper than Chaliponga is for the same amount of 5-MeO-DMT. Plus you don't need as much.

You'd only need 0.12g Virola to feel it's effect? That would be supercheap if you take in account that 100g virola costs 12$. Not that I'm a cheap fuck when it comes to entheogenes, but chewing 80g Chaliponga would certainly drain my wallet.

edit: Oh you're talking about Virola resin ...

I tried it myself a few weeks ago but could not obtain effects this way. Please report back if you do.

was this the resin or chaliponga? and how much did you use?? and how long did you hold it in your mouth?

SWIM got effects from both Virola resin (only the good stuff works, lots of bad stuff out there) and also Chaliponga leaves. He used 5 grams of leaves and put them in his cheeks as a quid. It worked, but was not powerful. But SWIM's chaliponga is good quality. There's lots of bad quality chaliponga out there. Get it from a good chali supplier who is known for quality chali and you should be ok with 5 grams.

Still, Virola resin is the way to go. It's much cheaper and far more potent, and tastes better to. It's sort of cinnamon-like in a way.

ILPT was talking abouy FRESH LEAVES. It could be roughly 10-15 grams of Dried leaves. ILPT Was talking about an average chali. But ILPT was never lucky to get superior quality so he would chew whole 15 grms pack of dried leaves worth about 10 pounds (12 bucks)



IS NOT SUPERCHEAP SWIM need new specs. The price is in range 12-20 bucks per 10 (TEN not a hundred ) GRAMS



ILPT`s parrot ordered 10 grms from shamanic.e. as swim recomended an he cannot wait. If swim is right (hope he is ) parrot will poses sligtly over 80 DOSES for his hard earned cash. Please GOD let this happend


After testing received batch hy would fly over here to post report

Virola resin seems to be a hit or miss, much like Yopo is for many. I think a lot of vendors get look alike inactive stuff without knowing it and pass it on to the buyer.

On df forum swim wrote he has got v. theidora as dark brown glossy material But parrot brought dark red v. theidora. he also noticed that v calophylla is dark brown. Did swim get it wrong??? Is calophylla more potent then theidora???

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It tastes bad. A gram was a threshold dose. Try it with THH and more then a gram and let us know!

Just tried 3,5g after some mouthwash for 10min. Nothing

there shouldn'tbe 5 meo in chaliponga or only in trace amount. if you see the recent analysis. primary active alcaloid is still n,nDMT. but ok n,nDMT can be active buccally which still could explain why some poeple got effects( but mild ones ).
Best bet fro active 5 meo dmt in plants is virola theiodora.. but most are bunk. I should be bioessaying some a friend tried and vouched for.
Can't wait to try it !

Yes Im aware of the recent analysis and also of the long CHali 5meo debate... haha
But Im on the side who thinks there is some smaller amount of 5 meo in the plant. I work with dosages between 20-30g of Chaliponga with 100g Caapi, and due to being somewhat experienced with Bufo I feel a lot of similarities between these.. But Im also aware of that at these dosages anything is possible haha.. DOnt know in the end.. Just saw this thread and had some Chali in the closet so had to try

Anyone yet have done some successful extraction from Virola?

10 gr of chali (aya style) is more than enough for me.
Could be the plant potency and/or way of brewing.