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blueskine
#1 Posted : 12/10/2010 8:13:12 PM

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SWIM took DMT (acetate or n-oxide?) dissolved in vinegar and zinc. Mixed here and there for about 24 hours. Filtered out the zinc and added sodium carbonate to 11ph. Then, heated with naphtha, separated, let cool to room temp then freezer overnight. This is what came out?
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#2 Posted : 12/11/2010 8:26:13 AM

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you have to add a base before pulling with naphtha!

hopefully you didnt throw the zinc+acid solution away
 
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#3 Posted : 12/11/2010 9:21:29 AM

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Forgot to write that. SWIM did basify to 11 after the zinc was filtered.
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#4 Posted : 12/11/2010 7:31:18 PM

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hmmm, ph 11 is not too much, maybe closer to 12 is better to get all dmt freebased.

In any case I guess a big percentage of your dmt should be there. What did you do to the frozen naphtha after gettign this, did you throw it away? Maybe it was too much naphtha and not much crashed out?

Are you sure the naphtha is good, did you use it before for freeze precipitation?

Also, what does this oil smell like? Does it dissolve in warm naphtha? Maybe you can recrystallize it...
 
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#5 Posted : 12/11/2010 7:51:16 PM

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The naphtha was new vm&p and saved it after (never toss stuff that might have stuff in it). One thing, was I put it in boiling water and maybe it was too hot. It smells good, like spice.

The yield was good should have been about 2g, it was 200ml of naphtha.

SWIM will try to dissolve it again, what is a good temp?
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#6 Posted : 12/12/2010 7:14:27 PM

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Personally, i see a green tint.
From what i have come to understand, your naptha is dirty, and you need to redo everything with new naptha.
Green = bad, in this case at least.
 
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blueskine wrote:
Filtered out the zinc and added sodium carbonate to 11ph.


Can you share some more details please.

How large (volume) was the solution before adding sodium carbonate ?
How much sodium carbonate did you use?
How did you test for pH ?

Thank you.
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#8 Posted : 12/12/2010 9:13:15 PM

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Shaolin wrote:
blueskine wrote:
Filtered out the zinc and added sodium carbonate to 11ph.


Can you share some more details please.

How large (volume) was the solution before adding sodium carbonate ?
How much sodium carbonate did you use?
How did you test for pH ?

Thank you.


There was 3g of DMT n-oxides
300ml of vinegar
3g of Zinc dust
Filtered through coffee filter
Added sodium carbonate until it reached 11 (not sure exact amount) using litmus paper
Added 200ml of Naphtha
Heated in a jar in water on stove until water boiled
Put in separating funnel to separate
Put in a dish let cool to room temp then put in freezer.
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#9 Posted : 12/12/2010 11:54:59 PM

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Ok. Mixed 1g of the green stuff with calcium carbonate. Heated it with naphtha to 110f decanted off new naphtha green powder left in the jar. Naphtha crystal clear left in warm water to cool slowly. Crossed fingers.
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#10 Posted : 12/22/2010 4:26:38 AM

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So how did it go?
 
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#11 Posted : 12/22/2010 2:27:27 PM

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Didn't work. Once it was in the freezer it was green again. So, tried once more then washed the warm naphtha with sodium carbonate solution and immediately a thick green goo fell between the solution and naphtha. Froze the naphtha again and a clear goo formed on the bottom with no green. After drying the clear goo, it smelled right but never crystalized. That's where it stands, not sure what to do next, use it for aya?
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#12 Posted : 12/22/2010 2:48:12 PM

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Didn't work. Once it was in the freezer it was green again. So, tried once more then washed the warm naphtha with sodium carbonate solution and immediately a thick green goo fell between the solution and naphtha. Froze the naphtha again and a clear goo formed on the bottom with no green. After drying the clear goo, it smelled right but never crystalized. That's where it stands, not sure what to do next, use it for aya?


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#13 Posted : 12/22/2010 3:23:58 PM

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please dont ingest or smoke something green if you value your health. That green must come from one of your chemicals, re-check them all, msds, evap test on solvent, etc... Find a proper solvent and chemicals, do an A/B, re-extract, recrystallize at least twice, and then maybe consider using it.. Or just give up and take it as a lesson for next time to check better what chems you are using

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#14 Posted : 12/22/2010 5:43:45 PM

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I am pretty sure it is from the zinc. It is the only thing new that was added. Yeah green is bad. Only chems used was Klean Strip vm&p Naphtha, zinc dust, sodium carbonate, vinegar.
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#15 Posted : 12/22/2010 6:22:54 PM

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why did you use zinc?
 
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#16 Posted : 12/23/2010 12:51:35 AM

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zinc dust converts dmt n-oxide to dmt. do a search on the nexus to get more info.
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#17 Posted : 12/23/2010 10:28:10 AM

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blueskine wrote:
zinc dust converts dmt n-oxide to dmt. do a search on the nexus to get more info.

Has anyone else ever done this procedure and/or provide pics of how it works in the nexus?

As far as I know, only 69ron (read: often unreliable kitchen chemist) claimed to have done said conversion so I wouldn't put my money on that. Plus if the zinc was purchased by FV, fuck knows what might be in it.



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#18 Posted : 12/23/2010 10:45:19 PM

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https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=17848 did noticed whiter crystals.

The goo SWIM had did clear but also went to green though with a sodium carbonate solution wash of the naphtha did rid the green but stayed a clear goo. SWIM is working on a tek using ascorbic acid to acidifying the bark now to see if the results change.
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