Background info

Note: This is not a post of a complete and SWIM encourages critique, suggestions and advice on methods, materials and also very important volunteers (who like in space where there are no laws like SWIM) to replicate the test.

(SWIM apoligises for the roughness of the post, he tested the a portion of the results of the test and is tripping a bit....)

SWIM has had very limited success extracting mescaline.

He's tried many many methods.

Salting Mescaline-tartate out of water.
Making paste of resin + lime and pulling with d-limonene or xylene.
Hydrochloride Saturated Acetone added to said d-limonene/xylene
Making paste of resin + lime and pulling with acetone
69ron's tek

He's spent many days working on these and of them the only one that gave decent results was 69ron's tek.
Every other one produced no yields or yields too small to measure on a mg scale or substances that were not mescaline.


Despite that there are a few things that SWIM dislikes about the 69ron's tek (not that 69ron is to blame, the whole idea is great and original)

-The lime and cactus is MASSIVE even in 100g batches. This requires large bowls, large amounts of mixing and most importantly large amounts of solvent.
-For SWIM specifically d-limonene is very expensive with the shipping usually ~40% of the price of it. Though he can get xylene and toluene locally, he prefers not to use them because of the smell, even when it is done in the garage.
-For some, lime is really hard to find.
-SWIM's yields were not good at all, terrible actually, with ~250mg from 100g of cactus.
-Powdering cactus chips is really dirty and time-consuming

Like was said before, big respect to 69ron and the tek, just mentioning the not-great things that are avoided with this new tek.


THE TEK

Materials needed:
Mescaline cactus or Mescaline cactus resin
Tap water
Sodium carbonate (oven baked baking soda)
Isopropyl Alcohol (SWIM used 99%)
Coffee grinder

So the tek starts from resin or reduced brown cactus tea soup (reduced as much as you can while still liquidy)
If you start from resin, add some hot water and mix it around until it is mostly dissolved.

Now that you have a brown super dense cactus juice add enough sodium carbonate to make it into a thick paste.




(Now this part may have a better solution, but SWIM tried this without the next step and the yield was super-low.)
Either dry the paste on a flat/scrape-able surface or directly in the coffee grinder (DON'T turn on while it's wet)
The past dries to VERY HARD chunks, a mortar and pestal might be able to grind as well, but the coffee grinder did the job for SWIM.

Now that you have a basified-resin-powder add enough room-temp Isopropyl Alcohol (IPA) to cover the powder. Mix around a couple times over about 5 minutes or so and the IPA will aquire a yellow color (and dissolve the freebase mescaline)

Let the mix settle and then pour or use a baster to transport the ipa into a filter, either coffee filter or funnel + cotton ball.
It filters pretty easily.

The filtered IPA should be clear and yellow. Add a few ml of vinegar
(SWIM tried with dilute HCl and tartaric acid, both worked vinegar should work too and would be his choice out of any acid)


Leave the IPA-vinegar to evaporate and you have impure red-brown mescaline.


SWIM tested about 1/2 of the yield off of 2g of resin and is definitely feeling the effects for sure
(he has tested lots of non-mescaline products he though were mescaline from his extractions and DID NOT get effects, trust his judgment)

The some fresh, cold IPA could likely be used to wash the mescaline. SWIM's is in the freezer now and he'll test later.


SWIM really likes this tek because:
-Everyone can get baking soda and make it into sodium carbonate
-IPA is much easier to get than d-limonene and not very stinky to work with like xylene/toluene
-Works with resin which can be made from fresh, chips or powder and when made is very small and easy to work with.
-With mescaline freebase in IPA there may be some really cool ways to precipitate it out that some people a lot better in chemistry than SWIM could figure out.

Cheers!

Edit: it seems that it may not work precipitating the mescaline from the IPA.
This got SWIM thinking, this tek could be done with d-limonene if needed, presumably using much less solvent

Cool idea, q21, good to see you doing some mad science experiments with the cactus

Could be a good effective route for smoking...

Freebase mescaline isn't preferred for long term storage because it forms carbonate on exposure to air right?

Also- the ipa would dissolve all of the fats, cellulose, etc. from the tea/resin, like in an IPA cactus extract, and so just be aware that your yield may be heavily skewed by this.

Keep it up my freind!

I presume from your photos that you get some other gunk and not pure freebase mescaline? Can you guess at what kind of yield you are getting from your experimenting so far?

Congrats for making a new tek! Some smart people on here!

Mescaline freebase in IPA....
That would be nice.. must be some possibilities there.

Im reading your basified-resin-powder not becoming slimy when you add the IPA.
Would it turn slimy when you use water or a mix of water-IPA?

Also, does the paste have to completely dry? I can imagine to let it evap to such extend that it can be divided in very small but still wet, pasty crumbles. If this would prevent the mix to become inconveniently slimy when water/IPA/mix is carefully added and swirled about.. Then one could do a simple extraction from lime-cactus-water paste?

anyway, thanks for the inspiration

btw lime hard to find?? the good old aquarium kalkwasser? or pickling lime? dont tell me one cant get hands on one of those if one makes an effort. I wonder how lime (calcium hydroxide) would do in your experiment.

The mix becomes slimy when water is added, presumably it would do the same when ipa-water was added too.

No idea whether it actually needs to be completely dry, but once again slimy-ness may be an issue.

The statement about Lime being hard to find is mostly relative. SWIM did take a few weeks to find a good supplier up in a Canada, in other places it may be easier but compared to baking soda... there is no grocery store that you can get it and most corner stores have it too.

SWIM is in the process of a 20g resin experiment now, the paste is drying now.

He was considering alternatives to the evaporation.
His plan was to try:
-Adding some HCl to some IPA and using the acidic-IPA to salt the freebase.
then he would first
-Put the IPA w/ the Mescaline HCl in the freezer and see if it precipitates
-if nothing then add some naptha to the IPA a bit at a time until some precipitation happens. Hopefully it'll be the mescaline.

edit: this doesn't seem to work with LIME. SWIM tried it extensively about 5 times with resin.

so SWIM's second attempt with 20g this time instead of 2g although not finished, had a single error that snowballed into many issues in the process.

Error : Too much water was added to dissolve most of the resin.
Issue 1: Over 200g or sodium carbonate was needed to dry out the soup
Issue 2: Since the paste was so massive it too a lot of coffee grinding, very annoying.
Issue 3: For the same reason (massiveness) lots of IPA was needed and even when squeezed through a sock (not a fun process with IPA) there was over 50% of the IPA still in the clumpy powder

Next time SWIM will try just making a paste of sodium carbonate and water then adding the resin and little bits of water and mixing vigoruously until mostly homogeneous


The second step of the plan was precipitating out the Mescaline HCl from the IPA and this did not seem to work at all.
In the freezer, clear, no clouding/precipitation after 1 hour.
Added slowly up to equal parts naptha to the IPA. No clouding/precipitation.
The naptha/IPA/mescaline HCl was placed in the freezer. No clouding/precipitation.

SWIM has left the brown liquid to evaporate in is garage.

^ok. relative lime.
i was thinking a sort of pasty crumbles of lime/baking soda might not dissolve.
But they do form slime? Thats why you dry? Or because you need bigger surface area?

be safe

So the results of the 20g test (the first and only pull) was 470mg of dark brown tar.

The tar, though containing mescaline, is not nearly as pure as that which is salted out of an organic solvent. After 2 washes with freezer-temp IPA it is still very dark brown. It does however taste very bitter and there is mescaline in there. SWIM doesn't know how much, could be only a few percent brown contaminate. SWIM has never tested pure mescaline so he could not subjectively compare a *X* mg dose to pure mescaline.

SWIM is thinking that this tek would work much better with d-limonene. SWIM just wonders how much it will reduce the solvent needed if any.
SWIM has some d-limonene coming, he ordered it from greenterpene before seeing the threads about problems with the company, though he ordered his a year ago from them with no problems...

Wow, cool!

Has this been successfully tested?

It would be interesting to experiment with a control batch without this procedure, and compare yields!

Thanks for sharing dagger

If i had the time, experience and equipment i would LOVE to blow the 'heat damages mescaline / mescaline-freebase' anxiety out of the water. Or prove it valid. I dont care about the outcome, i just want to know.. about better, easier, safer and cheaper tek's.

Thx for the info Dagger.