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olympus mon
#1 Posted : 12/12/2010 12:27:06 AM

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hey all, so ive been interested in growing different types of crystals. i have 2 attempts going right now. one for the sea urchin type cluster and one to make the diamond/coffin shaped shards. the diamond shaped ones were tricky to figure out how to get them started but i think i got it.

disclaimer- im kinda going off of lots of different advice as well as my own logic so i don't claim to be an expert. if im wrong on any points feel free to let me know and i will update this.

ok here we go.

first thing that must be done to get these cool shapes is a seed crystal or seeds. this was the tricky thing to figure out. the spiky clusters seem to be the preferred re-x of dmt unless you get crafty.

what i did was i used as low of heat as possible, just warm tap water in a double boiler system to warm the naphtha just enough to dissolve a small amount of freebase. i used 250mg in 75ml naphtha. i found when you use a higher concentration of dmt and high heat you cant stop the clusters from forming.

instead of higher heat i stirred for many min as well as muddled the freebase to get it to dissolve. once dissolved and cooled to room temp i placed a pre-selected flat dmt shard from previous extraction in the center of the container and placed in a cool still closet for 2 days.

after 2 days it looked like this. if you notice all the little shapes around the center crystal are like mini diamonds. its hard to see in pics but this is what im going for.

below that is just a pic of the tools i used to do this.
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#2 Posted : 12/12/2010 12:34:11 AM

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next- you have to get the concentration of the naphtha higher with more dmt with out screwing up the seeds and without adding any more naphtha otherwise it will take forever to evaporate. i did this by siphoning out some of the liquid with a glass baster and putting it into a shot glass.

i then added 500mg more freebase and placed the shot glass into a pan of hot water.
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#3 Posted : 12/12/2010 12:40:37 AM

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now i let the naphtha cool to room temp and re-added it back to the seeded jar very carefully with the turkey baster. you dont want to disturb the seeds anymore than you have to. once this is re-added i am hoping the re crystallization will follow suit and keep making the diamonds grow large.

we will have to see if this works as this is my firstattempt and its going to take a few weeks to evaporate it all slowly. i will update with more pics as the time passes even if im not successful. there is still learning to be had.
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#4 Posted : 12/12/2010 12:51:46 AM

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Nice start. Keep em coming - I can't wait to see your growth!! (just realized that reads kind of oddly - just to clarify, i have absolutely no interest in your abcessSmile , but would love to see your crystals!)

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#5 Posted : 12/12/2010 1:50:49 AM

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looking good so far olympus mon, I think you should get some good results.
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#6 Posted : 12/12/2010 6:00:13 AM

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thanks guys im hope so. i just cheeked the jar and the diamonds have already tripled in size and there about twice as many so i have a good feeling that this should work as well. i may add another 200mg maybe next week to make it just over 1 gram.
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#7 Posted : 12/13/2010 12:36:59 PM

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How do you keep the crystals from forming on the sides?
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#8 Posted : 12/13/2010 5:40:19 PM

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Keep em coming! I wanna see some sexy shiny xtal goodness.
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#9 Posted : 12/13/2010 6:15:52 PM

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That looks great, mon - but why did you choose naptha over heptane?
 
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#10 Posted : 12/13/2010 7:36:09 PM

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kevyn- i dont exactly know how this happened, my guess would be that using stirring instead of heat to dissloved the dmt played a roll but to be honest it was just luck.

gibran- in hindisght i wish i used heptane. while i was gathering all my information nobody mentioned it so i used what i had on hand which was naphtha. i do have another gram of freebase from my extraction i did this weekend. im going to give it a go with heptane using this same method.

do you think i will still get some decent crystals with the naphtha?
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#11 Posted : 12/13/2010 7:48:11 PM

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Maybe, but you'll definitely get better results with heptane. There's never a problem with too much recrystallization. Just do another heptane cycle once your crystals are dry.
 
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#12 Posted : 12/13/2010 8:13:27 PM

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Well i've got this giant crystal.... its more like a flat plain of many xstals stuck together... but anyways, I do stir it... yet when the naphtha evaps I still get parts stuck on the side... in turn I just move them down back into the naphtha (hence why its just a big flat plain....)
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#13 Posted : 12/13/2010 8:44:18 PM

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gibran- thanks for the tips i think i may just have to start over with heptane. i think ill let this attempt finish just to see what happens and to learn more. even if its what not to doEmbarrased . funny thing is i was looking for you around the chat room and hoping you would post on one of my crystal info seeking threadsLaughing . i hear your the guy to talk to for big honkin crystals. well i got your attention now so i may just bombard you with q's! j/kLaughing

kevyn- one thing i think will help is that the crystals use tiny particles to get started. if there's no particles present in the jar they will use a dust particle landing on the surface of the liquid. these surface forming lil guys then fall to the bottom. so i would guess that if you clean you jar with acetone it will remove all grease and matter from the sides of the glass giving the crystals nothing to attach to.
again just a guess from what ive observed and some reading on crystals.
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