Anyone tried this younger brother of Ketamin? New batch has arrived at several Uk vendors, i just ordered half a gram and will see wazup...

Really interested in this one myself. I read a lot of bluelight but can't find any direct comparisons to ketamine. Its pretty pricy but I have trouble finding Ket so I would consider some Methoxetamine instead if the effects measure up.

Alot of people on local forums say it´s alot like ketamine, but about 50% or more effect per mg and alot longer afterglow,

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Keep the prices of RC's/drugs out of the DMT-Nexus, take a read through the Attitude link please.

, and 30mg is suppose to give similar effect to 50-70mg ketamin.

Is this stuff called "Foxy" if so I have done it before.

No, this isnt 'Foxy'; methoxetamine a very new compound with dissociative effects with the added bonus of having an action on the mu opioid receptors-activation of these receptors cuases the pleasant psychic effects seen/felt on opiates/opioids such as codine/morphine/heroin/oxycodone/fentanyl.

Its apparently not as physically incapacitating as a decent dose of K and lasts strongly for 2-2.5 hours.The afterglow is sustained for a number of hours and those who have taken it without having a tolerance to ketamine really feel its an important and novel agent which may well become very popular until it comes onto the radar of the powers that be.

I also suspect that this compound may well have a significant potential for excessive use (fiending!)and it wouldnt surprise me if its action on the mu receptor leads to a risk of physical addiction.

Im not a fan of RCs generally but this certainly appeals to me;I received 1g of it yesterday and I feel that I may soon be 'researching' it

I will probably join you on the researching part

But i don´t like the physical addition potential you talk about.

I only ordered 500mg to not go overboard,

Well let us know how it goes

I wonder how long a half g would last, perhaps similar to 750+mg of K?

I was one of first to research this and I can't say enough about it.... YMMV, but there is something really really special about that compound... it's true it's a swiss army knife, wouldn't so much relate it to ketamine as I could relate it to almost anything... it's got stimulant, sedative, opiate, dissociative, anxiolytic and psychedelic qualities... it's quite spiritual, I can almost guarantee this one will be a huge hit.. I can't say everyone will react the same way and I would definitely be concerned about fiending/physical addiction + mania, losing your mind, everything could go wrong and because this one seems to make you more of what you are... I kinda expect it to turn obnoxious assholes into even bigger assholes, and I can see this one easily bringing ANY mental issues directly to the forefront. Proceed with caution, but yes, highly highly recommended, even if you don't like dissociatives, please be safe, plz plz.

Ok thanks alot for the info, i like the fact that most memebers at these boards think alot more about long term bad effects and other harm when talking substances and not just how good or bad they are when you are on them.

I have just kicked a 7year daily use of cannabis so i would not wan´t to find myself fiending something new...

Although my cannabis abuse had mostly to do with that i mixed it with cigarettes and i don´t smoke cigarettes by themself, DMT really helped realise how stupid that was,

Nikotin can really make you a fiend, esp when combined with something that get´s you high.


Edit: What kind of Physical addiciton symptons did you guys find with this? i´m a healthy guy and really don´t wan´t to do anything that will make me sick if i don´t get my "fix"

Is there any research being done on this compound? Other then you know bioassays.

Ketamine itself is a very safe substance. But similar compounds aren't always so safe like pcp.

Yeah DXM killed a few guys aswell so i will be taking it very easy with this.

The thing with most rc´s is that the side effects usually shows themself preety quickly, since alot of people atr stupid enough to try big doses without any knowledge...

As far as i know both bromo dragonfly,dxm, mephedrone etc showed their ill effects only weeks or months after hitting the market.

I had a really freaky dream about this stuff tonight, in it i was forced to buy alot of the stuff by some hostile guys, afterwards they made me take together with them and we all turned into these nasty looking mutants, it was really scary and i woke up with a really bad vibe,

I will probably not dare to touch this stuff untill it's been tested by alot of other people, with the popularity i think side effects will show preety quickly...

EDIT: WOW 2mins after writing this ive read that someone died from taking 50mg of mtx + 400mg mdai, heart failure apparently, so take it reallyeasy with this stuff.

I read that in a forum so could be bs, but who would make that up?

Theres something wrong about all the RC's I've tried and seeing what they do to people.

I would imagine this latest one would soon reveal it's dark underbelly....

I would try it though as have confidence in my own willpower, but not if it's especially like ketamine. Dissociatives are not for me.

Ouch. Scary. I just looked up on this and it has been confirmed that the person was using the drugs intravenously. Nobody without a 10 year ketamine tolerance should need 100 mg IV to get them where they're trying to go. And especially stacked with other drugs! Methoxetamine has proven itself to be benign in my experience. I have used it coming down off kratom a couple times to no ill effects (35-50 mg over 20 minutes or so). I suspect the IV was what did him in. Too much too fast and his body / heart just couldn't take it. I really do not suspect methoxetamine to be very dangerous, at all.

Still scary though. Reminds me a bit of the story where a pissed off girlfriend ate ~100 mg of methoxetamine to spite her RC-using boyfriend. Hospital ensued, but due to overreaction seemingly. She was not in danger. She didn't even know what the drug was; she just wanted to make her boyfriend feel guilty most likely.

+ MDAI is a deceptively strong drug, we've read loads of MDAI combos going wrong. There are always fears with new things, in fact most people have some fear every time they take something whether you know them or not, it's only a relative issue of comfort from experience, but we know so little about what most drugs do, and their long term effects, and the very complex interactions of biology, chemistry and life. I think you should be just as concerned about DMT use as MXE use (history not withstanding), I mean MXE may end up killing a few people, and it may have some horrible side effect that isn't immediately apparent... I think people are just suspicious of the UK RC scene because of some successful compounds that had unwanted side effects, but also because they were addictive compounds that drug dealers made a lot of money from... but we should all know the nature of chemistry, each compound is different, and the RC market in the UK has actually diverged because of the disasters, MXE is part of a wave of higher quality drugs with extremely responsible vendors... the vendors don't want their product in the news, they don't want people going to hospital - because that's how stuff gets made illegal, it's a new approach.

SHroomtroll- you may have some different views about dreams and such....I'm reading this like it's some kind of premonition (I don't believe in that), in my experience (+lot of scientific evidence) dreams seem to be a kind practice for upcoming scenarios in life... when I have worries or concerns for upcoming things, I often live out those scenarios in my dreams, things that could go wrong....quite common when you're gonna try something new. I remember my friend doing his first extraction, he would have nightmare scenarios leading up to the event, everything that could go wrong would be experienced in dreams/nightmares.... still I wouldn't let a dream stop you from trying some... by all means wait till you have more reports, that's probably smart..

UK Explorer-I think all drugs have a dark side, to me it's just a natural thing, we don't live these drug experiences every day for a reason... it's not conducive to day to day life. The "dark" side of a drug is often the mirror image of whats good about it... To me the darkside of DMT is obsession with the experience, that's not necessarily a bad thing... other drugs make you feel like you're gonna die and that is obviously a bad thing... but I will say again that it's the nature of chemicals to be different, you can't know MXE from your experiences with other RC's. I can tell you I have a lot of experience with RC's, and I would put this in a different class entirely.. almost nothing to compare it to, but also surprisingly free of "dark" or negative aspects.... me and my buddy have given MXE the tag line "too good to be true", because it's got this bluring of reality effect, it's so good you question whether this could be true... whether it's too good tho, who knows? it doesn't have a strong addictive effect, perhaps seductive, but you don't crash and you don't fiend binge or anything like that... and it doesn't seem to bring out negative qualities, but I'm not a negative guy, maybe if you're an asshole it makes you a bigger asshole.

Also I would take some of these stories you read on BL with a pinch of salt... that whole RC world is now big business, and there are cyber wars going on with vendors.....like I said before, there are good guys in the vendor scene, psychonauts/people that accept the reality of drug use.... but then you've got some real scumbags that a totally unscrupulous and just trying to make money... some of the msgs I've read just seem like complete bollocks, as if they were planted by anti-vendors.

i have herd alot about this stuff and am trying to get some. try smoking dmt with it, i love smoking dmt on ket is seems to slow the whole thing down abit, very easy to navigate. if you give it a go please let me know! i wonder how smoking spice would be on this new stuff

Again, this stuff is actually not that similar to ket...it's really so much more than that, ketamine doesn't seem like anything to me anymore.... a DMT breakthrough on MXE would probably something else entirely, probably incredible, but so hardcore, it's hard for me to even imagine.

im really not a fan of k or what it does to people at parties can be the most anti social drug and seen so, so many people ruin there bodys and brains through taking way too much, but guess that is the same for most drugs. i used to take a lot of k, but not anymore, seems to deaden peoples awareness of what going on and for me thats not good. also i cant dance if im on k!