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Help the Ursprach Initiative - send us your glossolalia recordings Options
 
asdroeido
#1 Posted : 12/7/2010 9:22:32 PM
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The Ursprach Initiative


"I’m suggesting somehow there could be a leap forward in the communication dimension and that this is in fact , what shamanism is all about , what the end of history is all about , what psychedelic drugs are all about. We are edge walking on an ontological transformation of what it means to be human. The mode that this transformation will come in… It will NOT be political, or technological, it isn’t star-flight, it isn’t socialism, it’s a whole other way of making our minds known to each other, by being able to show each other our minds. And in psychedelic states , you can do this."
( quote taken from The Ethnobotany of Shamanism , by Terence McKenna )



The Ursprach Initiative will build a large database of psilocybin glossolalia and submit this data to linguistic and statistical analysis. It aims to build a syntax of visible language and engender sophisticated post-historical communication between human beings.


How to contribute?


* After taking 6 dried grams of psilocybe sp. or above , record your glossolalia. Then mail me [ theursprachist@gmail.com ] the audio file or a link for it, a description of how the glossolalia looks like , a description of set and setting , the date of the recording , the date you were born and any other details you may find interesting.


* Send your statistical or linguistic analysis of our database.


* Rehost our data , share it on peer-to-peer networks, tell your friends about it.


How to browse the data?


I will send the Ursprach Initiative related posts under the title [ Ursprach Initiative ] , so you can find them ]here or ]here.


I don't get what you mean. What should I read?


The Ethnobotany of Shamanism , by Terence McKenna [ audio ] [ transcript ]
Fear and Glossolalia , by Terence McKenna [ excerpt ] [ full ]
The Tree of Knowledge , by Terence McKenna [ audio ]
A True Hallucination , by Mantid ( erowid ID : 2077 ) [ text ]
 

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#2 Posted : 12/7/2010 9:33:08 PM

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Thats actually a cool idea!

What kind of method for linguistic analysis are you thinking of using? Do you already have some methodologic criteria?
 
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#3 Posted : 12/8/2010 11:09:32 AM
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endlessness wrote:
Thats actually a cool idea!

What kind of method for linguistic analysis are you thinking of using? Do you already have some methodologic criteria?


I believe that the I Ching describes the syntax of psilocybin glossolalia ( see the No Fives and No O's issue here [link 1] ), and so does the Proto-Indo-European mythology , the assembly language of our culture. I'll compare Krakowski [ link 2 ], Crowley [ link 3 ] and the Tzolk'in with the data.

I also believe that psilocybin glossolalia does not follow Saussere's principle that "the connection between the signifier and the signified is arbitrary". I'll use the R language to find out how frequently a sound or a set of sounds create a certain shape or color, and how the previous sounds influence this shape or color.
 
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#4 Posted : 12/9/2010 4:09:43 AM

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it would also be interesting if you were to take the sounds produced and attempted to study it using a tonoscope...
some people say that playing "OM" through a tonoscope leads to this. (this may be a myth i havent looked up and down for proof.)



this is a tonoscope in action getting various frequencies.
Cymatics

just a thought..


but id love to hear people's recordings of psilocybin glossolalia. is there anywhere i can find some recordings?


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wade
#5 Posted : 12/9/2010 4:23:56 AM

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Saying om does not create a cymatic Sri yantra. The cymatic signature stems from the pitch more so than the construct.
 
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asdroeido, sounds like a really cool idea Smile



i googled 'om cymatic mapping' and found this http://www.youtube.com/w...feature=player_embedded#!
seems like it renders more of an elliptical shape. The tone done around 4:20 minutes in is pretty sweet



<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
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#7 Posted : 12/9/2010 5:00:07 AM

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just high dose psilocybin? how about dmt?
 
asdroeido
#8 Posted : 12/9/2010 12:32:19 PM
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just phil wrote:
it would also be interesting if you were to take the sounds produced and attempted to study it using a tonoscope...
some people say that playing "OM" through a tonoscope leads to this. (this may be a myth i havent looked up and down for proof.)



this is a tonoscope in action getting various frequencies.
Cymatics

just a thought..


but id love to hear people's recordings of psilocybin glossolalia. is there anywhere i can find some recordings?


peace love and paperclips


On the tonoscope:

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_cymatics.htm wrote:
In his research with the tonoscope, Jenny noticed that when the vowels of the ancient languages of Hebrew and Sanskrit were pronounced, the sand took the shape of the written symbols for these vowels, while our modern languages, on the other hand, did not generate the same result! How is this possible? Did the ancient Hebrews and Indians know this? Is there something to the concept of "sacred language," which both of these are sometimes called? What qualities do these "sacred languages," among which Tibetan, Egyptian and Chinese are often numbered, possess? Do they have the power to influence and transform physical reality, to create things through their inherent power, or, to take a concrete example, through the recitation or singing of sacred texts, to heal a person who has gone "out of tune"?


Once you know that ancient civilizations used tryptamines, "sacred language" reads pretty straightforwardly as the "visible language" of the psilocybin experience. One of its surviving forms, the ayahuasca icaros, claims to heal people and create physical objects made of pure meaning.

I couldn't find any recordings of psilocybin glossolalia ; the nearest thing I could find was ayahuasca icaros. That's why I started this initiative. Very few people on the Internet , maybe fewer than half a thousand , have repeatedly taken doses above 6 dried grams and systematically investigated the syntax of psilocybin glossolalia. Hence it's very difficult to gather all the data we need.

Your idea seems very promising. I'll try to study ayahuasca icaros and psilocybin glossolalia with a tonoscope in a near future.

biopsylo wrote:
just high dose psilocybin? how about dmt?


DMT undoubtely creates visible language, and its short time span will surely benefit our studies. However, very few people can remember what happened, and most of those who do say that they cannot describe what they saw. If you can describe how your DMT glossolalia looks like, then by all means take 70mg of DMT or above instead of 6g of dried psilocybes or above and send us your results.
 
 
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