The following is not a trip report , it is a long winded prologue to a question.

Me, and one friend decided to do mescaline . I had done it once before , and thought myself well educated on the topic. we had two bottles of tea ; each from a separate plant , but both confirmed as bridgesii . the one tea i had had before with another friend and frozen for about a month and a half.I gave the friend tripping with me this time that tea, i thought about the same dose as me and the other friend had. me and the other friend had good , easy trips . didn't trip hard though.I drank the different tea, and had a much higher dose than last time.
i got some tea down and planned to do more later, and give my friend some of mine once he finished his , he never got that far. he finished his tea and stood staring into his garden at the door , feeling nauseous. He then started vomiting . he went to the toilet and knelt over it saying very little , and vomiting regularly, at first i thought normaly cactus nausea but the more it went on the more i knew it wasnt, he kneeled there for about two hours! he kept telling me he was sober though , so i assumed he had vomited all the tea up and was just feeling sever nausea . eventually i tried moving him to the bed and look after him. the whole time i was really tripping much harder than last time ,and coming up but still trying to look after him . he lay there fore about an hour , in bed , as though he was asleep , but he never did fall asleep. he just lay there, looking dead and grumbling a yes or no now and then . I the kept trying to pat water onto him , he said this helped. and trying to get him to drink , but he of course vomited it up . I was no tripping very hard , i was getting worried , but then , he just sat up told me he had just realized he bad been tripping incredibly hard for the past three hours . in a mad way. the sicker he felt, the more he tripped.
We then sat doing the trippy stuff for about two hours (i was still feeling the after effects) and he reverted back to being very ill, and vomited up all the water hed drank and a bit of food he'd eaten during the trip . he knelt over the toilet for ages more feeling terrible, shaking a lot, not knowing if he was hot or cold, nor drinking, i then managed to get onto google , and decided he was in shock. all the symptoms got worse and his face got bluer.
I didnt know if i should call people/an ambulance , or keep trying to help i propped his feet up , gave him sugar water , let its body regulate its own temp etc, and eventually he got a bit better but was still gaging, i wasn't sure if i should let him sleep as i remembered hearing about one ailment where u cant let them sleep. hypothermia i think now. i also didnt want him to vomit in his sleep , so i sat fighting off the fact thati hadnt slept since the day before watching him as he dozed off.

We didnt go to anyone , and turned out to both be safe. I just wanted to know what the hell could make a small dose make some one trip so hard, be so ill, and trip in the way he did; just lie there weaker then imaginable. it was almost as though he tripped from being ill more than mesc haha. so can mesc degrade into something else? could't have gone off? could some of his ills have potentiated the little mesc he could of absorbed?
A really scary experience.

for u lazy bastards: friend drank from tea i had before , but froze for about a month and a half before he drank it. I tripped fine when i had it. he had a small dose. he vomited all up, then got very sick for hours. he then lay not sleeping, just sooo ill, asthough he was dead/in a coma , with a moan now and again . he thne kinda came to , and tripped normally with me. came down , went into shock . overall had an incongruently bad trip .
questions are in the last paragraph above

shamanic crisis....
Maybe they were already sick, and had to process it.

maybe there was nothing wrong with the tea... He got sick, as could be expected, didnt realise he was sliding into a trip, and took on a bad vibe..

He said he was sober, but maybe because of the heavy puking activities he didnt realise a smooth upcome of the low dose cactus. So when he got the bad vibe, he didnt realise he was already having psychedelic thoughts. From there i can imagine the effects to magnify into monstrous proportions because of a panic attack for example, or other thoughts of paranoia.

Yea just guessing. the fact that he continued to puke is striking btw.. he stopped puking after the trip?
idk.. guess i wont decide on freezing any cactus tea soon lol. just to make sure, i mean, there are alternatives..

sorry for your friend though
better luck next time

take care

haha interesting that you say shamanic, cause thats exactly what it was like ! we even discussed that nature of it.
Yeah he stopped puking, but felt fatigued for the day after, and the next, but so did I .
One theory i have is that the tea made him sick in the usual way, but the fact that he sat almost meditating in trying to fight off the sickness, and then lie in silence for a few hours potentiating a small dose massively, it is the case with me that being as focus and calm ,and unstimulated as possible made me trip the most. He had the same , would be my guess.

Thanx for the condolences

"Small dose" is also a relative term..Im sensitive to most of these things..12 grams of dry torch chips has really sent me before into a sort of emotional crisis..the cactus ripped me open and I was huddled into a ball in the rain on the beach crying about my life, then like reaching up to the sky crying at how wonderful everything was, complete with rainbow technocolor heat shimmers radiating off the beach and ocean and getting sort of psychic instructions from the land..

Not a one time thing either with this cactus..I dont take it that often so I have had this same dry torch for 2 years..it is consistant in its effects at that dose..half that and its like really nice MDMA but more colorful and spiritual..thats like 6 dry grams of cactus flesh..I dunno about other cactus though since Ive never tested my live torch.

Was your friend taking any prescription drugs or supplements? Sounds like a potential negative drug interaction. Does he use antidepressants?

I know him extremely well, and i dont think so . I'd pe pissed if he is and didnt tell me ,when we were about to do psychedelics.
I'll ask him later and post . Do some things just maybe not agree with people?

this sounds like another bad mescaline trip... this happens more often than people think, most people say mescaline is a friendly psychedelic, I have a lot of experience with it, witnessed many subjects have very awful experiences and guess what?, I've come to the conclusion that it's kinda unpredictable, it can happen at any dosage regardless of experience, but interactions normally play a large part.... in my opinion this is a set and setting issue that most people do not understand, I think mescaline has quite an odd character that way... I've had my worst experience ever on mescaline, I wasn't physically sick but shaking violently, experiencing all emotions at once in a stabbing fashion, hyper loneliness, suicidal thoughts, the whole 9 yards, and that was with pure mescaline... it's actually quite funny how different the experience is.... I think people want to believe is mescaline is this super friendly thing, but it does have a dark side, you could say it's a learning experience and it was, but still bloody awful, horrible in every sense of the word.

Well ive found out no medication was involved .
Well Ibeing, you post throws some light on the situation in the form of no reason haha. Its good to know that it can happen for no reason actually. well thats the last time i introdice some one to psychedelics.

Maybe it was the cacti in general. Some people have no stomach for cacti yuckyness. Pure mescaline might be a better route for such individuals.

Can't say for sure what would cause such a problem. Normally nausea only lasts 1-2 hours from SWIM, with cacti vomiting included but not so late into trip.