One more question for my mesc xtrakshun...
It occured to me that I may be able to skip a step here:

Combine 1 pt dried cactus with .25 pt CaOH, wet with 3 pt water
pull w/ xylene 'til cactus is exhausted
salt xylene w/ HCl 'til xylene is exhausted
_evap HCl to yield cactus hash
clean hash with acetone to yield mescaline hydrochloride

Could I skip evaporating my HCl/mesc solution and just seperate the HCl from the xylene, add the acetone directly to the HCl/mescaline solution, mix, seperate, and evaporate the acetone? Or would my pH be too low from the HCl in solution for the acetone to work properly? Also could I freeze percipatate mescaline out of my acetone? I hope phlux sees this...

mixing acetone with the hcl solution will screw your extraction up, acetone will mix with the whole thing (and doesnt separate in layers), keeping your alkaloids trapped. And if you just put the whole thing to evap, what was the point of adding the acetone in the first place?

Yes, it can.

or you can just mix the acetate goo with sodium carb, dry it and pull with acetone/IPA 3x.. This will make sure its freebased.

nope, no problem at all.. If its that dry already, maybe better add a bit of water when mixing with the sodium carb so that its a paste, to make sure it freebased the whole thing, and then let dry (and break up the chunks/powderize) before pulling

No, not really, acetone is too good at dissolving freebases.

Just doing the q21 q21 tek, and I can't find an answer on the forums...I know my water bath shouldn't boil, but what temp is ideal? danks...

Any vagues estimations of how much NaOH is needed to get 300ml of the mimosa/water acid mixture to pH11 ? Also how should one mix NaOH ? Gram per 10ml, meaning 10g per 100ml or less/more ?

Basically what I'm saying if there are any dangers/disadvantages of using a very strong (10M, 40g/100ml) NaOH solution ? Aimed pH is 11.

unless you know exactly how much acid there was in the first place, its impossible to calculate beforehand how much NaOH you need to raise it to a certain pH. In any case if youre extracting DMT, why do you want it pH 11? Why not higher? There is no problem using more lye (except that youre using up more NaOH and therefore spending money...). Also with pH that low as pH 11 your yield will probably be very poor if you pull with naphtha. Better get it higher

I do know how much acid but theoretical calculations apply for water, not mimosa solution.

I want to do it at 11 since I believe higher pH is necessary, pulling more "unwanted" materil and resulting in a reduced potency (see Trickster's thread about that)

Extraction will be done DCM and I think we're throwing NaOH away with numbers like 100g or even 200g.

I'm just searching for an experience of someone so I can decide how strong (M) should the solution be.

Im sorry I dont understand.. if you just want the pH of lye with pure water, yeah this can be calculated. But its not gonna be pure water, as soon as its mixed with mimosa (and the acid if its an a/b), that pH will change because part of the NaOH will be reacting to the acid, so it wont be the same as the original calculation of pure water.

But yes if youre extracting with DCM then you probably dont need higher pH than 11, since at that ph 99.5% of the dmt is freebased and DCM is a good solvent. But DCM will pull a lot of unwanted material too, how will you clean afterwards?

And what does reduced potency means? dmt is dmt is dmt, there is no dmt of reduced potency.So would you mind giving a link to the thread you mean so I can understand?

Yep, I totally agree with you. You can't calculate pH's mimosa/water mixture.

Re-X with heptane shall be done afterwards.

Bad choice of words. The mixture extracted from the mimosa seems to be less potent when being extracted at higher pH.

hmm, I will ask trickster about it.. I wonder how controlled this experiment was. Maybe self suggestion? Or maybe different density of crystals will affect the vaporization method if its not a very efficient one, etc.. There isnt any alkaloid in mimosa in that big quantity appart from dmt so it cant be some 'less effective alkaloid'.

IMO it makes no sense that higher pH will yield a weaker product, but can't say for sure unless we really get to the bottom of this particular experiiment.

Anyways, good luck with your xtraction shaolin

My Naphtha has turned the same color as the root bark after only 24 hours. How do I fix this? Is it true that you can use soda ash to remove the brown from the naphtha?

do a search on 'red naphtha', this seems to happen with some people. I think it has to do with suspended particles of bark that refuse to settle.

Best way to fix is to separate the pull as it is, and do an A/B in it (salt out with vinegar 3x, then add base to vinegar and re-extract)

Hi, swim has just finished the D-Limonene Mescaline TEK, but the liquid in the evaporation dish is clear. Is there something wrong?

I am right in the middle of Phlux's mesc tek, and my D-limo is clear also, but evaps down to a tawny coloured crystal sludge. It's normal for it to be clear, but you'll only know if you grabbed the goodies after you evaporate.

Good luck

JBArk

Thanks,
In this TEK (69ron), the mescaline is in vinegar instead of D-limo, so do you think it is also normal for it to be clear in this case as well? ...Sorry, SWIM is just worried.
Thanks for reading.

To anyone who can help;
SWIM has just finished all the vinegar pulls doing the D-limo mescaline TEK and poured in into the evaporation dish. Is the vinegar supposed to be this clear?

http://i39.photobucket.c...MG_4527.jpg?t=1293042868

Thanks for reading.

In phlux's it starts out in limo then is salted out with HCL. The soluttions containing the mescaline were both clear at all times, until the limo was saturated with impurities after 8+ pulls. You might want to post this in the cactus subforum to get more responses.

cheers,
JBArk