i will be brief. cause im still trippin still processing. shit is crazy ! to say the least. i think i found a good combo...

i smoked a bong. weed on the bottom, 30 mg spice, and on top of that 120x sally, i got most of it down in one monster hit

i felt as if i stepped in to a dream and was walking around , it was a mirror image (only much more intense with detail. ex. my dog had jewles in her coat. and so polished and smooth from the dmt) I was asking out loud "really is this possibe? am i here?" and i seemed to get a responce confirming the fact, yes u stepped in to this place.

I was caught so off guard that i thought i was stuck in the dream (once again i thought i wasnt comming back from that place ).

This was a pleasnt trip. next time i'll try to maintain more composure (hard to sit still and close my eyes when it feels like im rolling my face off and have crazy OEVs) all in due time.

Sorry this choppy. still a bit tippsy...

- ONCE IN A WHILE YOU GET SHOWN THE LIGHT, IN THE STRANGEST OF PLACES IF YOU LOOK AT IT RIGHT-

Soulshine

How much salvia did you use?

I matched the crystals with 30mg (.030 on the scale). just enough for a full toke. I saw your post earlier. I prob should have read it a bit closer, i do recall reading the formula. But i all ready took a toke from the GVG about 45min before, and just went with it.

I'm planning on round two in a couple of hours. I think im going to keep the dose the same. We shall see... i'll take another look at your post first.

If your 120X is legitimate, then a good breakthrough dose is just over 3mg – the dose you took is about 9 times a salvia breakthrough dose. I'm sure you wouldn't take 270mg of DMT in a single dose! (If you actually consumed 9mg salvinorin A, you probably would have no memory whatsoever of the experience, so I doubt your extract is legitimate 120X.)

I make my own 20X, and 18mg is enough for a moderately strong breakthrough.

(Also, legitimate 120X can only be prepared using pure salvinorin A. Something most vendors won’t take the time to do.)

Your 120X is, if i were a betting man, BUNK. I am suspicious of anythinhg over 20x, because first of all, it stops making economic sense, and second of all, extreme hyperbole makes excellent marketing sense. I am naturally suspicious of 20x as well as pretty much any extract, AS truth is to marketing forces what electromagnetism is to gravity (wow, I astound myself with the geekiness of my analogies ...)

anyway, watch those crazy mixtures. They have a way of assing you in the bite.

JBArk

As you said its probably not accurate. I cant imagine that i took 9 times the proper dose. The brand is called Purple Sticky Salvia. It comes in a purple shallow cilinder. It said 120x on the packaging, and i even asked the woman at the head shop about dose(who i've become familiar with since she does seem to have the most information out of the employees) and she said two hits would be good. I just smiled politely and knodded, i didn't want to be rude.

1/9 of the dose would be like 3 flakes of parsley... i figured a small weighed pinch... You can never be too sure what you are buying over the counter at a headshop. A friend of mine actually has been mentioning growing some (thats what sparked my interest to try it again, along with some of the posts i've been reading) for us to share. If that works out at least i will know exactly what im getting.

P.S.- Heh, Will do jbark

Take a look at this thread.

(Purple Sticky is generally considered to be the worst mass-marketed extract available.)

That thread should prove to be very helpful to me in the up coming months. I'm going to write it down, thanks.

I'm with gibran and jbark here, there is no way that's a legitimate 120x. Purple sticky is probably the worst extract of Salvia you can buy. Live and learn I wouldn't buy any Salvia from a headshop at all to be honest, besides maybe some plain leaf. I doubt many headshops sell plain leaf though

All that aside, I'm really interested in the DMT/Salvia combo. Some weed thrown in there at the bottom probably wouldn't make too much of a difference I'm thinking. Perhaps as a herbal catalyst of sorts, enhancing the Spice and Salvia. Nice report.

What I do like to do if going fo strong extract is starting from crystals salvinorin a. Mix with spice to a 200 micrograms dose per dmt dose - around 50mg for me along with harmalas and flower and/or leaf as support (such as mullein for its sponge qualities and texture ) Just to say I don't trust much this vendors in general.
Actually my first dmt enhanced leaves with plain salvia leaves and calea tincture was very good already without the use of salvinorin crystal.
This quality of making you undersatnd couple of things (salvia has always been a very pragmatic teacher to me, sometimes-well many times the harsh way
So much that I hardly don't throw salvia leaves of crystal in the chaznga mixes.
However plain changa is lovely and loving but there is less scenario in my xperiments.
Highly recommended for any experienced salvia user (note that I only use threshold dose when mixed with spice).

I took a look at the “Purple Sticky” website, and their “120 AtomiX” extract is listed as 30X. They also have text that says the package contains 120mg salvinorin A, but they have packages of a couple of different weights. Also, the only way to know the exact amount of salvinorin A in an extract would be to make the extract using purified salvinorin A. I can assure you, Purple Sticky is not made this way. (If a gram of this product actually contained 120mg salvinorin A, then a dose would be about 8mg.)

Another shocking thing – they charge $73 per gram!!! If you grow your own, you could make a legitimate gram of very high-quality 30X for about $1.50.

I don't know if i will buy form the headshop again. To be honest i was eager to try a new combination. Its prob been a couple of years since i last attempted a salvia trip. And this just seemed to be a quick fix. I don't regret it. It was a good trip for me. Though i prob should have been patient and researched the product before consuming. Next time...

I have wanted to make changa for quite some time now after reading some of the posts. Im just waiting for the holidays to be over before i get supplies...

thanks again guys