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Hello everyone, It seems Chaliponga isn't cultivated a great deal outside of its native habitat, let's change that  . I've finally managed to find some seeds via ebay. search chaliponga and go to soul sh a m a n's page (spaced for google searches). anyhoot figured some might appreciate this namasté nought is a fictional name I use on forums only. All posts and pictures are fictional. Any other use of this name, in any other forums, websites, or chatrooms will be someone other than myself.
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Posts: 5826 Joined: 09-Jun-2008 Last visit: 08-Sep-2010 Location: USA
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What sort of environment does Chaliponga need to grow? You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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The Great Namah
Posts: 3433 Joined: 18-Jan-2008 Last visit: 17-Sep-2020 Location: The place entites go when they smoke allspice
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Hot and very humid. The Spice extends life
The Spice expands consciousness
The Spice is vital for space travel
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I don't know SWIM and personally don't trust him at all. If SWIM is posting, most likely I will not respond...as I said, I don't trust the guy. YOU I trust, but never SWIM.
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Posts: 5826 Joined: 09-Jun-2008 Last visit: 08-Sep-2010 Location: USA
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Too bad. That's what I thought. Is there a plant similar with 5-MeO-DMT in it that doesn't need high humidity? You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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The Great Namah
Posts: 3433 Joined: 18-Jan-2008 Last visit: 17-Sep-2020 Location: The place entites go when they smoke allspice
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69ron wrote:Too bad. That's what I thought.
Is there a plant similar with 5-MeO-DMT in it that doesn't need high humidity? Some of the grasses have 5-meo in them and they have a pretty extensive grow range. The Spice extends life
The Spice expands consciousness
The Spice is vital for space travel
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Never underestimate the power of STUFF!
I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention.
I don't know SWIM and personally don't trust him at all. If SWIM is posting, most likely I will not respond...as I said, I don't trust the guy. YOU I trust, but never SWIM.
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Posts: 5826 Joined: 09-Jun-2008 Last visit: 08-Sep-2010 Location: USA
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I've not heard of anyone having a good experience with the grasses yet though. Most people report lots of unpleasant side effects. It’s definitely something to look into though. I imagine the side effect producing compounds could probably be removed if the right technique is used. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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Posts: 4342 Joined: 02-Oct-2008 Last visit: 19-Jan-2024
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SWIM has some phalaris brachystachy and seeds for aquatica and the arun one...the brachy grows wonderfully...and supposedly high in spice content but not 5meo...SWIM has yet to figure out a good technique for extraction...but finally has some time to figure it out..
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Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Those Ebay seeds are supposed to be fake. WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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SWIM got the brachy live..
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Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Quote:I've finally managed to find some seeds via ebay. search chaliponga and go to soul sh a m a n's page These seeds have been shown to be fake. It's gonna be hard finding the true type species, and a good strain... We NEED Diplopterys cabrerana in cultivation!!! Look!WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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Posts: 686 Joined: 29-Jul-2008 Last visit: 19-Sep-2013 Location: Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy
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yeah.. the unwanted side effects probably come from the alkaloid hordenine which is contained in some of the grasses. it is supposed to be VERY unpleasant. on the other hand that info is kind of old.. i have been reading about hordenine being used very much in the body building industry for loosing weight and keeping it off. I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees. I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues. And I'm asking you, sir, at the top if my lungs.. (all posts are fictional and are intended for entertainment purpose only)
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Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Hordenine? In grass? I've only heard of it in a few cacti, namely Lophophora and a few of the other "Lost Peyotes". WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 686 Joined: 29-Jul-2008 Last visit: 19-Sep-2013 Location: Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy
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yeah.. its in there.. it is a fact. I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees. I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues. And I'm asking you, sir, at the top if my lungs.. (all posts are fictional and are intended for entertainment purpose only)
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Posts: 4342 Joined: 02-Oct-2008 Last visit: 19-Jan-2024
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SWIM has some brachy that he has been itching to try..he just needs to figure out how to go about doing it
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The Great Namah
Posts: 3433 Joined: 18-Jan-2008 Last visit: 17-Sep-2020 Location: The place entites go when they smoke allspice
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Jorkest wrote:SWIM has some brachy that he has been itching to try..he just needs to figure out how to go about doing it
Juicer, acidify, defat (repeat x10), basify, naphthafy. The Spice extends life
The Spice expands consciousness
The Spice is vital for space travel
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Never underestimate the power of STUFF!
I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention.
I don't know SWIM and personally don't trust him at all. If SWIM is posting, most likely I will not respond...as I said, I don't trust the guy. YOU I trust, but never SWIM.
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Posts: 4342 Joined: 02-Oct-2008 Last visit: 19-Jan-2024
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acolon_5 wrote:Jorkest wrote:SWIM has some brachy that he has been itching to try..he just needs to figure out how to go about doing it
Juicer, acidify, defat (repeat x10), basify, naphthafy. oh man..seems like a lot of work...would acetone work for the defat...SWIM would rather use a solvent that was easy to get and cheap...hexane is expensive..and acetone is a little bit..but its easier to get.. otherwise SWIM could do that RIGHT now..what would you recommend for the acid? he has citric, fumaric, and vinegar...and soon will also have some phosphoric(10% solution)
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in.spirit
Posts: 2 Joined: 28-Aug-2008 Last visit: 15-Jan-2016 Location: sth 'o' the border
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I am fairly certain the unwanted in Grasses is gramine and it is pretty hard tp seperate.....
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its still worth looking into though...somebody needs to do it and find out for sure... all this gramine stuff could just be rumors trying to keep this source from being wicked sweet
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Posts: 686 Joined: 29-Jul-2008 Last visit: 19-Sep-2013 Location: Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy
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yeh.. one should definitely experiment with grasses. haven't heard about gramine i just know that it contains hordenine and is therefore not really good for ayahuasca addmixture. i have read somewhere on deoxy that some dude made an alcohol extract of some grass and he entered elfspace through it. I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees. I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues. And I'm asking you, sir, at the top if my lungs.. (all posts are fictional and are intended for entertainment purpose only)
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The Great Namah
Posts: 3433 Joined: 18-Jan-2008 Last visit: 17-Sep-2020 Location: The place entites go when they smoke allspice
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Jorkest wrote:acolon_5 wrote:Jorkest wrote:SWIM has some brachy that he has been itching to try..he just needs to figure out how to go about doing it
Juicer, acidify, defat (repeat x10), basify, naphthafy. oh man..seems like a lot of work...would acetone work for the defat...SWIM would rather use a solvent that was easy to get and cheap...hexane is expensive..and acetone is a little bit..but its easier to get.. otherwise SWIM could do that RIGHT now..what would you recommend for the acid? he has citric, fumaric, and vinegar...and soon will also have some phosphoric(10% solution) No it is way too polar. First it mixes with water. Secondly it almost certianly will pull out the alkaloids. I always like the phosphoric acid, seems to do the job quick and easily. No smell, and really not very dangerous. Toulene/Xylene should very good at defatting. I know Xylene is dirt cheap. The Spice extends life
The Spice expands consciousness
The Spice is vital for space travel
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Never underestimate the power of STUFF!
I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention.
I don't know SWIM and personally don't trust him at all. If SWIM is posting, most likely I will not respond...as I said, I don't trust the guy. YOU I trust, but never SWIM.
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